"vegan" leather suitable for straps?

[robs456]

I can never understand why vegans "can't" use leather, it's not like they're going to eat their belts or bags. And the cow didn't die for the skin, someone else ate it and the skin would go to waste unless we used it.
So if you're vegan because you love animals, I think you're disrespecting the animal by NOT using leather products.

But I ran into something weirder when trying to sell yoga mat holders to a girl and her group. She said no one would by them as they didn't use leather because the soul of the animal was trapped in the hide.
WTF?
I believe yoga is from India where they believe the soul passes on to the next life so what kind of new age hipster makes up a quasi-religion just  to avoid buying leather products?
If she'd just said that cows are holy animals I would understand, but these were no Hindus, just a bunch of new age yoga freaks.

[bermudahwin]

Wow, Ticks and meat allergy, who'd have thunk it?

I refuse to even consider animals souls in the skins, just not on my radar, and will be ignored if it comes on my radar. SHEESH!

Bikermutt, that would work. Good thought.

H

[Northmount]

Just a little note:

Vegetarians and Vegans are not necessarily the same thing. 

Vegans won't touch anything that is assumed to harm an animal during its production.  For example, they wont use wool because some sheep have such heavy 'coats' that maggots will grow in the folds around the sheep's neck.  They wont eat eggs or chickens because the chickens are cooped up in such small places and not allowed to range free.  I'm more in favor of the older farms and ranches where animals have space to live.  I don't really agree with warehousing animals.  I guess a lot of it is what you have grown up with.

Vegetarians just don't eat meat.  Depending on their culture, that may or may not include chickens, fish, eggs, milk, cream, etc.

Now obviously you will find vegetarians that have developed into full blown vegans.  It can happen in any family!  Just less likely for either if they were raised on a farm or ranch. 

I know of others that are allergic or have health issues that have forced them into being vegetarian, and most are not happy with the change in their life.

Tom

[bermudahwin]

59 minutes ago, Northmount said:

Just a little note:

Vegetarians and Vegans are not necessarily the same thing. 

Vegans won't touch anything that is assumed to harm an animal during its production.  For example, they wont use wool because some sheep have such heavy 'coats' that maggots will grow in the folds around the sheep's neck.  They wont eat eggs or chickens because the chickens are cooped up in such small places and not allowed to range free.  I'm more in favor of the older farms and ranches where animals have space to live.  I don't really agree with warehousing animals.  I guess a lot of it is what you have grown up with.

Vegetarians just don't eat meat.  Depending on their culture, that may or may not include chickens, fish, eggs, milk, cream, etc.

Now obviously you will find vegetarians that have developed into full blown vegans.  It can happen in any family!  Just less likely for either if they were raised on a farm or ranch. 

I know of others that are allergic or have health issues that have forced them into being vegetarian, and most are not happy with the change in their life.

Tom

Thanks Tom,

Yup, I am happilly vegetarian, and you forgot Fruitarians and Pescatarians from your list.

A vegan is always a vegetarian, but not all vegetarians are vegan. Vegetarians donteat flesh, and that includes chicken and fish.

I am Lacto-ovo vegetarian, as I can eat eggs and dairy, My brother has an immediate reaction to eggs, so I got the lucky cal in our family.

I know and am friends with many veggies and vegans, and have never tried to convince one top change their lifestyle. I am often admonished by vegans for eating dairy and eggs, and using leather.

Whilst a bit of the above has been off-topic, there is sensible advice on alternatives to leather, as well as more esoteric discussion of why people would happilly use products that are reliant on the petrochem industry, whist not using the readily available by product of the meat industry.

Best

Harry

 

[DV8DUG]

And vegans do not drink mead or eat honey. Not because we box up bees or abuse them with smokers while we steal their honey. It's because bees add invertase....  This enzyme helps change sucrose into equal parts glucose and fructose. Just droppin' knowledge.

[Northmount]

2 hours ago, hwinbermuda said:

Vegetarians don't eat flesh, and that includes chicken and fish.

I have to disagree with this statement.  I worked in a company for the past 20 years that employed people from all over the world.  Often friends called it a little "United Nations" as many nations were represented.  A number of my co-workers were vegetarian and it really does come down to their culture and nationality as to what they define as allowable or not.  Chicken and fish were definitely allowable for some.

Tom

[kiwican]

On 04/11/2018 at 10:08 PM, NVLeatherWorx said:

Then just go get some vinyl strapping somewhere and use that; there is no such thing as "vegan" leather and we all know that it is just artificial materials that are not within our materials matrix.  Being as you know that this is a leather forum and you work with the real thing you should know better than asking us about the garbage that we all work to replace.  Sorry, but such questions are not best suited for these forums.  Might I suggest that you go to your local Walmart and buy a couple of those fake belts they sell and use those.

This!

[VabaX]

Honestly, this is a bit like going onto a forum that is dedicated to the art of diamond cutting, and asking the members if they know where you can source some cubic zirconia, or whether you should use moissanite instead....

[ScoobyNewbie]

Still valuable information... if you have gone a day without learning, you have wasted your day.

[bikermutt07]

2 hours ago, VabaX said:

Honestly, this is a bit like going onto a forum that is dedicated to the art of diamond cutting, and asking the members if they know where you can source some cubic zirconia, or whether you should use moissanite instead....

 

1 hour ago, ScoobyNewbie said:

Still valuable information... if you have gone a day without learning, you have wasted your day.

We need a "like" button.