Contributing Member fredk Posted November 25, 2021 Contributing Member Report Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Now knowing that it might need some lots of fettling to get it to work decent I might get one to play with Its what my father used to call a Tinker-toy* * I believe there used to be some sort of toy in the US that was called Tinkertoy Edited November 25, 2021 by fredk Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members Squid61 Posted November 25, 2021 Members Report Posted November 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, fredk said: Now knowing that it might need some lots of fettling to get it to work decent I might get one to play with Its what my father used to call a Tinker-toy* * I believe there used to be some sort of toy in the US that was called Tinkertoy Actually, the US toy that comes closest was called Erector Set; a collection of nuts, bolts, perforated metal strips, pulleys, shafts, miscellaneous accessories and a real plug-into-the-wall motor. Enough to give today's overprotective nannies a stroke! There is a current version available but it lacks much compared to the original. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted November 25, 2021 CFM Report Posted November 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Squid61 said: Actually, the US toy that comes closest was called Erector Set; a collection of nuts, bolts, perforated metal strips, pulleys, shafts, miscellaneous accessories and a real plug-into-the-wall motor. Enough to give today's overprotective nannies a stroke! There is a current version available but it lacks much compared to the original. yea and it was great!!! when used with the potentiometer of my electric train set lol. i think it may have been my first wood burning kit too lol. Damn it was fun being a kid back then. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
kgg Posted November 25, 2021 Report Posted November 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, Squid61 said: a collection of nuts, bolts, perforated metal strips, pulleys, shafts, miscellaneous accessories and a real plug-into-the-wall motor. Great description of the China Patcher except for the motor part. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members DrmCa Posted November 25, 2021 Members Report Posted November 25, 2021 My impression is that those who buy them from China wholesale and re-sell them locally actually do a pretty good job of QC. They weed out apparently defective units and sell only those that work. If they would not, then they would have too many returns and negative feedback. I personally would never buy this unit from China directly, but since it was already present in my city, I knew that I could return it in the worst case scenario. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members Garyak Posted November 26, 2021 Members Report Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 11:43 AM, chrisash said: My question is how well it sews, we all know they are built to a low price level, But how different is a patcher say singer 53 or older, row of stitches than a Chinese patcher that's set up properly. If you were given two sets of stitches could you really identify what one was made by the Chinese version They are completely different. I have both a cobra and China patcher. My patcher sews with the best out there. It excels in the fact that it can sew 207 on both ends, unlike the rest of the patchers (except Claes/pfaff) that top out at 138. A sewing machine is nothing but a tool. It’s only going to do what the operator makes it do. It’s only going to do what it was designed to do, and the China patcher does exactly what it was designed to do. Lots of folks are producing top notch leather work with it, ive never had a complaint. 4-3/4 stars when used as intended, without physical changes to the rig. Singer 29-1 thru the latest clone (cobra,techsew,Consew,etc) are all singer 29s. The China patchers next of kin is the Bradbury.two completely different set ups. Quote
Members DrmCa Posted November 26, 2021 Members Report Posted November 26, 2021 It's hard to see the machines through the sticker camouflage. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members Squid61 Posted November 26, 2021 Members Report Posted November 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Garyak said: A sewing machine is nothing but a tool. It’s only going to do what the operator makes it do. It’s only going to do what it was designed to do I've had too many instances of machine tools doing other than what I attempted to make them do. A machine, tool or otherwise, with imprecise components either by design, manufacture or wear and tear will do whatever they care to do, sometimes with spectacular effect. Quote
Members Garyak Posted November 26, 2021 Members Report Posted November 26, 2021 China leather patcher, enduro pro 220v ran 110v. 207 cobra thread- UY 180-200 22,23. Quote
kgg Posted November 26, 2021 Report Posted November 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, Garyak said: unlike the rest of the patchers (except Claes/pfaff) that top out at 138. The older Singers 29k 71, 72, 73 in particular the 1949 were rated for a #25 needle but the sliding needle plate / cover for the bobbin for those larger threads only came drilled for a #24 needle which is still V207. The newer clones are I agree rated for V138 and some even less. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
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