Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.

[terrymac]

Where in the bell did this yo yo come from?  Whiz is one of the most respected and knowledgeable people on this forum.  When was the last time you imported a machine into the United States from China?  If a person was highly proficient with sewing machines it may be workable, most of the people looking to buy are not.  If this is any indication of what we can expect from you, I respectfully suggest you go find another place to offer your sound advice

[Arturomex]

45 minutes ago, terrymac said:

Where in the bell did this yo yo come from?  Whiz is one of the most respected and knowledgeable people on this forum.  When was the last time you imported a machine into the United States from China?  If a person was highly proficient with sewing machines it may be workable, most of the people looking to buy are not.  If this is any indication of what we can expect from you, I respectfully suggest you go find another place to offer your sound advice

I'm going to second @terrymac's sentiment.

Your assertion that Wiz has " multiple vested interests" is extremely offensive.

Regards to Sheila.

Edited July 8, 2020 by Arturomex
Removed profanity.

[Wizcrafts]

Wow!

[dikman]

Indeed.

[Matt S]

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dealers are making exorbitant amounts of money at the customers expense

Good one mate, thought you were serious for a minute! Tell us next about how farmers are fleecing us cos they are "selling stuff what grows out the ground", or car mechanics "just turning a few spanners" don't deserve to get paid. Doctors are laughing all the way to the bank cos they are "just repeating what Big Pharma pays them to sell". "Electricians shouldn't charge that much, wire isn't very expensive." And while you're at it don't forget the old "$40 for a quality belt? There's like $1 of leather in the thing. I can definitely make it for less, this guy is clearly making exorbitant amounts of money."

I also have to say, you have certainly changed your tune in a year...

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Firstly enormous thanks to all the guys who have pointed me in the right direction over the years particularly the amazing WIZCRAFTS.

 

[Wizcrafts]

5 hours ago, Matt S said:

Good one mate, thought you were serious for a minute! Tell us next about how farmers are fleecing us cos they are "selling stuff what grows out the ground", or car mechanics "just turning a few spanners" don't deserve to get paid. Doctors are laughing all the way to the bank cos they are "just repeating what Big Pharma pays them to sell". "Electricians shouldn't charge that much, wire isn't very expensive." And while you're at it don't forget the old "$40 for a quality belt? There's like $1 of leather in the thing. I can definitely make it for less, this guy is clearly making exorbitant amounts of money."

I also have to say, you have certainly changed your tune in a year...

 

No good deed goes unpunished.

To be fair to Charlie, I do give preference to our paying dealers when a machine they sell is being discussed. Those folks keep the lights on here, paying 3 to 5k a year to advertise here so you can enjoy free membership where people around the World share knowledge and expertise about leather work and industrial sewing machines. Without their support and that of our "contributing" members, this server would go dark in a relatively short time.
 

[dikman]

4 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

 I do give preference to our paying dealers when a machine they sell is being discussed.
 

Yes, I've noticed that, but by the same token you are generally recommending reliable dealers to newbies who are new to the subject. Once one gains knowledge then they can make (hopefully) informed decisions and take risks in buying machines. I'm not sure that qualifies as a "vested interest".

[DonInReno]

Wiz I have to compliment you not only on your professionalism and good judgement  when it comes to sponsors, but also on the quality and quantity of great advice you’ve given out.  You definitely enjoy helping people across the board from rank novice to the veterans, and we all appreciate all you do.

[Bert51]

All I can do is applaud you Wiz, 

You have always been straight with your comments and guide us to people who will help us most, without leading us astray.

Yes we need our "contributing" members and with out their guidance some of us would be lost by now.

Bert.

[chrisash]

I also agree that Wiz has done a lot of good for the forum

But one thing that I do question and not just the US machines but world wide

The sewing machine factories I assume do a test stitch into the correct garment for which they were designed for be it leather or cotton, by the factory QC departments, so my question is do the agents really take the machines out of the factory boxes and test them again and then repack to send out to the customers. Or is it just a few buyers who send in a sample piece?

The definitely dont on domestic machines