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So, you were hoping for a video with actual, useful information? Cuz, as a rule we don't do that ...

Yes, you should return that.

I stay away from teh nylon zippers for all but the smallest projects. Otherwise, I've had a pair of insulated cover-alls with an aluminum zipper for years now... no troubles - and they do get some hard use (now if I could just find them after moving!).

Well, yeah.. much of 'around here' is a bit unproductive. Mom would like some of that stuff that lady with the stained glass makes, and she was so nice I just offered to do it. Like leather work -- pretty simple if ya got the right stuff.

You can do this a bzillion ways. I've dyed the leather, then finish, then stitch- didn't want the finish "pooling' in teh stitching. And I've stitched, then dye and finish - wanted teh colors to all work together. And I've dyed, then stitched, then finish - when teh thread should contrast with the leather color. I always oil AFTER dye, and always finish AFTER dye and oil. Otherwise, don't matter.

...while the leather dries? During those short runs during the move, had to do something when there isn't enough time to start new projects, but haven't finished all the other tasks. So, couple gals on about getting some simple graphic work done - on a budget. So, they seem to be happy with what they got, at the price they got. Cutesy sellers who wanted a "banner" in their shops (that broad graphic at teh top).. https://www.etsy.com/shop/ClearerImage https://www.etsy.com/shop/DawnsINKSpirations

It almost was Swing anna miss.. not quite what I was aiming for. Still, it'sa 8 outta 10, so just a couple tweaks to go .

Swing anna miss.. not quite what I was aiming for. Still, it'sa 8 outta 10, so just a couple tweaks to go .. Used this W/C skirting, since for some reason it isn't 'hardening' like W/C normally would --- so putting it to use here!

Sounds like I should take another look at them I see I deleted the email I got from them, so it'll be 'from scratch'

If I remember right, I didn't order from knifekits due to some of the info they requested. If I'm buying something, you would need my name, shipping address, and credit card number. You're selling something, you would need to know what I want, where to ship it, and how I'm going to pay for it. Anything else... why?!#!@!

I suppose I could list some patterns for sale NOT 50/50, but it does seem like there should be a charge for being the only one doing that. Gotta wonder if there would even be a market for that -- if people complain about the cost of a blue gun, maybe they aren't interested in that, either. Well, maybe just won't worry about it, since it's far from the original posts in this thread

Oh, and dont forget to check ebay on occasion. There's a lot of crap on there, but you can duck most of it by putting 'rings blue gun' in the search, and setting the search options on the left to MAX $50. This will spare you seeing all the listings priced HIGHER than you can get them brand new.

Ring's Also, .. Alternate Force $43 guns (quick!) bluegunstore name is easy to remember, but the "free" shipping is added to every gun, so buying 3 means paying the "free" shipping 3 times Bunkhouse Tools They have a few models I haven't found anywhere else. Different look, but they work great. Good service, too. Duncan's Customs Aluminum molds - I like these. $50 guns and $15 mags Index Fasteners $45 ($60 for the "holster ready" mulit-molds), plus they have holster accessories (loops, screws, washers, etc) less $ than many places http://www.holstersmith.com/vcom/index.php?cPath=555_563 These last two appear in search, so I listed even though I've never ordered there. http://www.knifekits.com/vcom/index.php?cPath=41_585_586 These last two appear in search, so I listed even though I've never ordered there.

I mean a actual pump. The little pic looks like it came with my baby girl's bicycle See kin i find that link to one that some leather girls n boys use.... I didn't see the post I was thinking of, but did find the info. This post shows pics of the setup that some found useful.

Does that INCLUDE a pump? Seems pricey if the pump aint in there.

Not true. Actually I was referring to that whole zoo that occurred on teh first page of this thread. This isn't true, either. That's what I was talking about the pet rock -- because something SOLD does not make it GOOD. Unlike what you hear, actually 6 million people CAN be wrong So, to be clear here.. I don't care what holster a guy makes, or even IF a guy makes them. I'm only replying here to let you know that what I said did not refer to you.

That's not bad -- 10 for $43 each.

Agreed People were making quality leather long before I was born, and likely will continue after I'm gone. Just so I've said it, when I referred to "name dropping", I wasn't referring to you. But, I'm not intending any offense or taking any. Nothing on this site worth all that anyway. I do / did try to be of some use to the 'new guy', but honestly I don't gain or lose anything by doing it, or feel the obligation to do it.

That's funny! I have always made holsters based on what I like (barring specific requests). Never give much thought to what somebody else is doing - -don't really care. But, so much went on about some "big names", that I checked. And the funny part? At least one of the "names" people seem to like to throw around to 'justify' simple holsters... DelFatty actually states (on that site) " might find that the wings bind the weapon because they are pulled in to the waist so abruptly. " That's worth one more of these

I don't count "numbers" as equals skill or value. I see thousands of junk projects sold every day. The pet rock sold like 6 MILLION copies, and then there was an "imitation" pet rock... and then a couple years later they were re-introduced and advertised as the "original" pet rock. Millions sold, but it was a rock in a box. With "air holes" for the rock. That people were ignorant enough to buy them (often because the neighbor did, so I should too)... did not make them any "better" I doubt that anyone here makes anywhere near as much money as Spongebob Squarepants. So, is he smarter than us? Maybe more talented? I make a joke of it, but the idea is quite real. Really, it's good sometimes to differentiate between facts and "marketing" spiel. I read somewhere once that Bianchi "invented" some 30,000 holsters. But a quick glance showed that one "design" was a simple fold-over taco thing, sewn up the seam. Then another was teh same holster, but they added a hammer strap. And a third "design" was teh same holster with a trigger strap... etc.. Nothing against Bianchi or anyone who works with/for them -- but I'm not maybe as susceptible to advertising as some others. Adding or mentioning somebody's name to make something seem more legitimate just doesnt' work on me - means nothing. I've made a couple holsters over the years. And out of a bazillion (well, quite a few to some ) I've had this "issue" exactly twice. Each time, they asked for that '50/50' thing, and when they got binding I made them a replacement which was nearly flat in the back, which solved the issue completely. I agree that it doesn't need to be a 'debate'. Each his own.

Sam did a great job on that video -- it's the ONLY one I recommend to people wanting to make holsters. Dialing it back just a tad --- Sam seems like a friendly, knowledgeable fella, but he didn't invent this Josh, looks like you got some pretty good mileage.

Moreover.. how did you manage to go 40 years of leather without trying the HO?

Yeah, with ya. I've always said.. We do not make holsters in 'medium' or 'large'. If it fits many guns, then it fits none (a pail will hold your pistol, but doesn't FIT it). One fella showed up, said he wanted a holster that would fit gunA AND gunB... so I handed him a plastic walmart bag that was laying there.

Well, yeah..that IS teh short version. When I make a "pattern", what I'm actually making is the STITCH ALLOWANCE, which can then be used to make a multitude of holster styles from that one "design".

AND, aguycould take that same basic "50/50" pancake, CUT IT on the front stitch line, and hold it up to a mirror, turning it into a basic "avenger" style holster for the same gun. http://www.jlsleather.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/AvengerLayout.pdf