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Thanks for your answers. A friend and I have found a 29-4 patcher that we wondered about. But now it seems the seller wants way to much. She had said we can make a deal and then set a minimum of $ 750.00 for a machine that likely won't work and has parts missing. So likely will pass on it unless she gets much more reasonable its a no go. Saw one sell a year ago for $100.00.

Hi S N , As for using WD40 it likely won't hurt but I recently found that what really worked for me to loosen up tiny rusted parts was john deere hytran low viscosity. Its a hydraulic oil and it seemed to get in and loosen up the latches on antique sock knitting machine needles so it would likely do a good job on other stuff that is not as delicate too.

Has anyone on here dealt with Horse n harness in Ohio they claim to have sold hundreds of 29-4 machines and claim to have almost all parts for them. For same day shipping. Was looking at the website and wondered. Since I might be interested in parts.

Yes I agree he is good to work with, I bought my cb4500 from him plus thread and parts. BUT I am deaf so phone is NOT an option for me. I just wondered if anyone else had ever gotten a reply on his contact us link. Have since been in touch and will try again to do business when I need to.

Thank you Tom, I looked at some of those sites before I posted here but so far none I have found tell me if it can be used for straight stitching or what thickness it can sew. Also the pictures I have of it show a flat plate at the feed dog not the one with the half round groove as the ones on those sites show. I am hoping someone that has or has seen or used one can give me a bit more info.

I have done a search and got nothing so I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything about this machine. There is one for sale within driving distance. Does it do straight stitch or is it a special machine for some non leather job. Could it sew leather for example mitts ? And if so what would its limit be thickness and thread size.

In fact you are not talking about assembling the machine but the stand. It is clear from the pictures that the machine only needed the flywheel put on. So the stands might be different depending on which dealer you bought from. The stand my CB 4500 is quite different from the one in your pictures.

I tried to reply here last evening and this did not work. So here is my reply. First I have tried several times in the last 2 years and never got a reply. If my message was read it was made clear that I am near deaf so I CAN NOT phone. I was trying to get information for people that are not on here in order to buy servo motors and other parts. We intended to order a large order and have it all shipped together. Had no choice but to direct them to other options. I have to wonder why there would be a contact us link if there is no intention to read or reply to what is sent.

Has anyone ever received an answer from Toledo sewing machine when they use the contact us link on their website. I have tried several times and NEVER got a reply.

My comment was meant to draw attention to the fact that pulleys as SMALL as 1 1/2 inches are out there and will work on motors with thin enough shafts. And that 1/2 inch DOES make a very noticeable difference.

Here is one thing nobody else has mentioned. This is on a clutch motor BUT it would be equally true on any motor. I just replaced a 2 1/2 inch pulley with one 1 1/2 ( No one mentioned 1 1/2 ) and it makes a big difference. I just happened to have one hanging in my shop that had the right size bore. SO if you could find one smaller than the one on your motor it would bring top speed down even more. ( the one on your machine looks rather big ) The one I used was just a cheap aluminum one but it will work just fine for what I do. Naturally the smallest pulley you can put on will depend on the shaft size but it sure looks like you can go much smaller than what is on there now.

Just a note of interest. When I bought my machine Cowboy 4500 Leightons price for virtually the same machine ( juki 441 clone ) was 2 and a 1/2 times ( picked up at his place), what mine cost me INCLUDING shipping from Toledo and I got just about every optional foot and needle plate included. When I ordered needles from him they were 3 time the price in Winnipeg.

I have not been on here for a long time BUT I have found it much less costly to order from Toledo sewing machines than buying in Saskatoon. When I bought thread in Saskatoon it was $75.00 a lbs. in Toledo it was $15.00 so even with shipping it was the right thing to do and it got to me sooner.

I have a 29k51, I have it working good. So as I said its the table and stand that are possibly interesting. I have seen a few on here that admired others original cast stands, and the original tables seem rather rare. That is why I said that the head is well worn I am wondering what some of you think those things would be worth if you had a chance like this. I know that making it sew well is a crap shoot. I did get my 29k51 making stitches 5 to the inch. Or very close. But this one may very well be beyond fixing the way I did my 51. If the gears are done. No matter how well I happen to get the stitch length it will not sew good. Thinking possibly screws ( my 51 is missing a couple ) and maybe parts that someone needs that are broken or missing on theirs from the head.

There is a Singer 29k2 coming up on a sale in 2 days. I looked at it and as was expected it is well worn, But the seller says it sewed right up until he broke the last needle. Interesting things about it are, original cast iron treadle stand, original wood flat bed conversion table like seen it old singer books. Table is in very good condition for the age. I am hoping I can get some opinions as to what some of you might consider paying if you had a chance at one like this. If I were to buy it if it could not be made to sew decently I might part it out or sell head as is, ( for parts ) and table and stand separately. According to web site by serial number it was made in 1919 July to December, Clydebank Scotland.

Just a comment from my experience. When I was looking for my machine Leightons price was twice what it cost me to by and ship my machine from Toledo ( Cowboy 4500 ) and I got all the optional plates feet etc. included. So you might also better check Techsew and Toledo at top of page. Was talking to somebody recently that said they know Leighton and was told they are out of business.

Glad my suggestion helped, Sometimes simple is all it takes.

Thank you for your info. I just ( 15 minutes ago ) found that I can get rotary phase converters near here. I will go to them and see what they can supply. The good part is to deal face to face. The price we got on the phone is $ 515.00 for 3 hp. which sounds good. This is not a hurry up deal I am working at it as I have time.

Why not just make your own as I have done. Or if you do not have a lathe a friend can make strap end punches in a few minutes for you. The cheapest ones I found were $65.00 each it took me about an hour to make 3. And the $65.00 ones were likely no better than the tolls this person bought.

Get a proper draw gauge and a bit of practice, with my Osborne's I can run down 8 feet of hide with no problem. Wood warps with changing humidity and may not run true. Any wood one I have seen are a poor tool compared to a steel one, even the aluminum ones are nothing compared to a good steel one.

Just a guess but MAYBE you put the bobbin in the bobbin case the wrong way. the thread coming off the bobbin clockwise when it should be counter or visa versa. Turn it over and try again

Had a similar case with my CB 4500 just loosen the screw that holds the foot on and turn it so the needle goes down the middle of the hole so it does not cut the thread between the needle and the foot.

Thank you both for your advise. I will have to do some more research it sounds like an inverter might be the right thing for me. I have talked to 2 electricians and it neither offered any solution but a rotary phase converter at about $1800.00. I guess I might have to talk to one who does more work with 3 phase and high voltage. The book with the wiring diagram was supposed to be included in the deal but now she keeps telling( ITS HERE) but she can't find it. With the book it would be a lot easier to know how I can set it up. I have found what are called STATIC phase converters on the internet for as little as $69.00 that are for motors 3-5 hp. ( mine is 2 hp. ) but need to know for sure they are the right thing for this job.

I've never seen a jerk needle. So I use what works for me.

For doing repairs there are places you can NOT use a second needle, such as sewing inside a loop for a trace on harness and the lock stitch awl WILL go in from one side and let you replace stitches that let go by putting the thread through the loop it creates. So YES it has its place but it does not replace a good sewing machine.