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Techsew 5100- New to Cylinder Arms, Need Help
kgg replied to parishleather15's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
Here is a couple of video's to help you get started: kgg -
This appears to be the same PFAFF 1245 machine that I had for a very short period of time. The threading appears to be correct up to the last thread guide just before the needle. In your second video I noticed the thread guide just before the needle appears to be different then the one I had on my machine and seems to be further to the right side of the shaft rather then being more too the center. The manual I have in figure 1-01, figure 7-04 and figure 9-01 shows the guide being centered. According to the manual " Use only system 134-35 needles " and it could take size 110 to 140 ( #18 to 22 ) needles which means it could handle V69 to V92 in thicker stuff and V69 to V138 in thinner stuff. My machine would not work with V138 except in thinner fabric. The thread fraying at the needle maybe being cause by a burr at the needle plate/feed/ etc. or the hole in the needle plate andfeed dog may not be large enough for the needle system you are using. I have included the manual I used and a photo of my machine, nameplate and needle area. Note: In the machine photo I miss threaded the small round tension guide just before the main tensioner. kgg pfaff_1245_1246-manual-EN.PDF
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I did like the video ( https://variani.com/videos/belt-punch-and-cutter-machine.mp4 ) you did post under another topic about the press. The quality of the setup seems to be quite nice. I think this style of guide could be adapted for use with a standard hand press or modified for the less expensive drill press guides. I did like the self centering feature but the distance between the holes could be better refined as some might like the holes closer together while others farther apart depending on the use of the belt / strap. A belt to hold up your pants verses a gun belt. I can see it being an asset but cost would be a major factor and it would be in competition with such items like pre made clicker press dies with the hole punches build in. I do have to agree that when I did read your post I did think of it as an advertisement as some others had I would suggest that you really need to write your post slightly different as not to give the impression of it being an advertisement. kgg
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Since you have gotten good service out of the Cowboy I would just go with another Cowboy. kgg
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My questions: Is the long arm necessary? Could you get away with a machine like a Juki DNU-1508 or clone. Would a cylinder bed machine like a Juki LS-341 / 1341 or Juki TSC-441 or clones of those machine work??How thick is the thickest part that you have to sew going to be? A couple of photo's of the style of bags you want to make may help to determine if this is the right style of machine for your application. kgg
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My take on this: Tandy Poly Cutting Board: ( https://tandyleather.ca/products/poly-cutting-boards?_pos=1&_psq=cutting+boards&_ss=e&_v=1.0 ) It depends on two basic things i) the material whether it is LDPE ( Low Density Polyethylene) or HDPE ( High Density Polyethylene ) as HDPE is about 3 times more dense then LDPE for the same thickness and obviously more heavy. The more dense the stronger it is and it's ability to withstand sudden shock. Most cutting boards you get at a regular store are really made for normal food prep cutting and are probably made of LDPE. They really don't like to be used as chopping blocks and often split when you use a cleaver on them. If you are just going to be using it as cutting surface and willing to replace it when the cut marks pose problems then they would probably do quite nicely as they can be had pretty cheap at your dollar store. If you want to cut, punch holes, use it in a clicker press or otherwise abuse it you really need to go to a HDPE board. In Canada you can get 12" x 12" x 3/8" Natural HDPE piece ( https://plasticworld.ca/product/natural-hdpe/ ) for about $13 CAD ($9.50 USD) whereas Tandy would charge about $26 CAD ( $19 USD ). Since Tandy does not give specs on the material other then "Poly" I would suspect it is probably LDPE. I had to buy some 4' x 8' x 1/8" HDPE sheets for our boarding kennel more commonly know as puck board. This what is used in lining the hockey rink walls except those sheets are much thicker. So I went to a manufacturer and while I was there we had a discussion about what would be a good material for a clicker press. The bottom line answer was HDPE and the thickness would depend on the tonnage. kgg
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JUKI DDL 5550-06 noise when foot pedal is pressed
kgg replied to Brixen's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
To me it sounds like a motor bearing squeal but it is a hard to tell from the video, to short a time where I could here hear the noise. kgg -
Nicely done. Do you have video of it working? kgg
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Do you mean London, Ontario in Canada or London in Great Britain? Without seeing the machine working and it being properly professionally packaged up for transport as well as the scam sales going on I would personally suggest the new machine for the sake of the difference in price. Parts / repair / accessories for a Juki and Juki clones are less expensive and easier to get then for an Alder. As far as the Atlas AT341 I would suggest using V92 thread as minimum and it should sew nicely what you want. kgg
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A couple of questions: 1) How thick of leather are you normally going to sew? 2) How thick of leather do you want to be able to sew? 3) What size of thread are you planning on using?? 4) What are you planning on making??? Without knowing those things this maybe the perfect machine for your stuff or totally incorrect machine for your needs. The Atlas At 341 is a clone of the Juki LS-341 just like most of the other 341 clones has similar spec's as the Juki LS-341. These days most machines regardless of the name will provide good service. You got to change how you write your post and comments as it can be difficult to read. kgg
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I had one of these for a very short period of time a couple years back but it used the 134-35 needle system. It would also slip the timing and what I found when I really cleaned everything up was those two gears as in your photo were worn and the larger gear needed to be moved forward to get better contact with the other gear. I just slacked the shaft off at the safety clutch and moved it forwarded. kgg
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Thank you for the compliment. kgg
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The needle size for V138 thread needs a #22 for thin items, #23 medium thickness and #24 for thick items (reference: https://www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html ) You have threaded the machine incorrectly here are a couple of pictures I grabbed off an Alexander Dyer video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5_zIYxNpE ) of how it should be threaded. As a note this maybe not be the right machine for knife sheaths, holster and gunbelts in particular holsters. kgg
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The Consew 29BL appears to be similar to the Techsew 2900L. These two links may help: i) Checking the Timing: ii) Adjusting the Timing: Hope these help. kgg
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Your right it is not a wear and tear thing as I keep my machines in pristine condition and when I sell them they look like they just came out of the box. What I have found is at that time frame the price of a new clone, for that model, has increased allowing me to usually get what I paid or close or more and move on to something else. kgg
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Sorry, I do not share my STL files. kgg
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I figured the price would catch you a bit off-guard. When I bought my Kobe LS-1341 I had actually gone to buy a real Juki LS-1341 but the new Kobe was a lot less so I said I'd give it a try and if I didn't like it I would sell it. Well I basically kept it for 3 years with no problems before I sold it. I usually keep a clone for about 3 years whereas the Juki's stay. kgg
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I made a mistake. It should have said Juki LS-1342. @JWfur kgg
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The Techsew 4800 would be sort of similar to Juki LS-1342 in that it has a adjustable presser foot climbing mechanism. Looking at the photo's on their website it has the larger diameter nose like the Juki LS-1341 and their model 2750. The difference between the Juki LS-1341 and a Juki LS-1342 is basically the presser foot climbing mechanism and the smaller diameter nose which maybe beneficial for smaller items. What I did notice is the spec's for the Techsew 4800 says it is capable of handling V277 but it can only handle a #24 needle which is good for V207 so I think that maybe a typo in Techsews spec's. As a note that the Juki LS-1341 and LS-1342 can handle a #24 needle but it appears they rate their machines for the max size of thread for the max sewing thickness not thread size capability of the needle. My conclusion: i) if you need an adjustable presser foot climbing mechanism in a clone machine with similar spec's as the Techsew 4800 then maybe investigate something like the THOR GC 1341 ii) if you need a smaller nose and the presser foot climbing mechanism buy a Juki LS-1341 which is going to cost a lot more. iii) if you can do with a clone machine having a slightly larger gauge nose and no presser foot climbing mechanism like the Juki LS-1341 then look at the Cowboy CB341, Cobra Class 26 and Techsew 2750 to name a few. kgg
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Keep in mind no one machine will do everything well and most of industrial sewing machine do not like using V69 thread preferring V92 and larger. That is why a lot of us have more then one class (Upholstery Class 563/1541, Class 341/1341, Class 441) or style machine (Flatbed, Patcher, Cylinder Arm). I think as an all rounder with a flatbed attachment that are rated to sew about 7/16" thick leather you may want to consider the Class 341/1341 machines similar to the Cowboy 341, Cobra Class 26 and the Techsew 2750 to name a few. They use the 135X16 needle system for leather and 135x17 needle system for fabric. The Class 441 machines can do thin stuff if properly dumbed down and with the right feet dogs/presser feet/needle plate but really shine at the doing the really thick items. Keep in mind that they take a large diameter needle the 7x3 or 794 needles and may not give you a nice looking finished item with small sized thread. As a visual comparison think of a 3" finishing nail punching a hole vs a 1" finishing nail. I guess it really comes down to which machine that will do most of your items most efficiently. You may find it better to get a Class 341 / 1341 cylinder arm now and if the need arises then invest in a Class 441. As this is going to be an expensive investment I would suggest making a road trip to a dealer (or sending a sample of your items to a dealer) and test driving a couple different classes and styles of machines using the thread size you want to use. kgg
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Not much leather work here but it was something I needed. After I "retired" from the Engineering BS we opened a dog boarding and grooming kennel as it seemed to go hand in hand with my hobby of dog showing and breeding. Well after 20 years of use our last original kennel slip lead finally decided to give up the ghost. I always have liked the English style kennel slip leads but they are now costing about $20 CAD plus for something sort of half decent in 1/2" diameter and $40 CAD for a proper spliced 5/8" double braided nylon. I personally don't like the feel of flat nylon or flat polyester leads or the leads made PVC coated webbing's like biothane and how they work but that probably is just me. Over the years we have boarded and handled a lot of big guys (plus 120lbs) as well as the aggressive dog breeds like the Black Russian Terriers, Pit Bulls and Cane Corso's. Our kennel leads need to be safe, dependable, tough and be able to be used on almost all breeds. So me being me I went to the scrap bin to scrounge enough bits and pieces to make up some new ones. I did have to buy some new 1/2" 48 strand braided Polyester rope and 5/8" double braided Marine Nylon rope but the rest I had like copper rivets, 1" welded metal "O" rings, scrap 3 oz veg tan and 1" diameter shrink tubing. This is what I ended up with. I figure these will probably outlast me. i) cost for each slip lead averaged out at about $8 CAD. ii) the sliding leather keepers are two layers of 3 oz leather glued together, wet formed around the rope and riveted together so there is a nice smooth leather surface rubbing against the rope that will not slip through the O ring. Had that happen with a store bought one and it wasn't fun. iii) the shrink tubing is to provide a nice smooth transitional surface and hide / protect the copper rivets. iv) the blue slip lead is braided 1/2" 48 strand braided polyester. Initially it will be stiff but will soften with use. v) the black slip lead is double braided 5/8" marine nylon with the ends spliced back into itself. The leather doodad on the handle is for accessories like plastic bags. It is very pliable and feels comfortable in the hand and will be the one that I use on my dogs (Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retrievers). vi) the green slip lead is owned by a customer and is a store bought 3/8" that appears to be made with braided polyester. All comments are appreciated. kgg
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This is a class 441 clone machine of the Juki TSC-441 and is similar to the Cowboy 4500, the Cobra Class 4 along with other machines in this class. These days they all seem to be pretty dependable. The main question that should first be answered is this class of machine the right one for what you want or need to sew. This article will help you determine what machine or machines will best suit your needs. What are you planning on sewing and with what size of thread???? kgg
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Can you use an embossing plate without a clicker?
kgg replied to DaleksInc's topic in How Do I Do That?
Just to add to the list if you have a hydraulic shop press that would also work. kgg -
A lot of servo motors these days come with a needle position sensor for less then $200. The table that the machine setting on is a nice DIY design. If I was in need of this type/style of machine I wouldn't pay anymore then 40 percent of what I could get a new one for. That would put the price say around $550 but that is just me. kgg
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If I'm not mistaken like @Constabulary has stated it is a clone of the Singer 45K21. This I think is very similar to what use to be referred to in recent years as a GA5-1. Bottom feed machine, no reverse with the GA5-2 having reverse. A more modern clone I think would be a Cowboy CB2500. If you contact @CowboyBob I am sure he would be better able to tell you about any differences between the two machines. As a note here is a link to the Cowboy CB2500 with speed reducer and servo $1395 and $1695 with reverse ( https://www.tolindsewmach.com/cb2500.html ). I think for such an old machine be it good looking shape the price is way to high when there are new machine buying options at a lesser cost available. kgg