Silverd

My fault entirely I'm afraid. My apologies. Silverd

Have spent now several hours attempting to tune this machine into sewing like I expected, and all things considered i have likely gotten it to stitch as well as it is going to but didn't know it. The photo is of the backside stiches from my Chinese 441 thick white thread and this machine. Is this normal for the jukie? If so, I've made a mistake. Silverd

My equestrian stitching experience pushes me toward tight stitching. I understand the principle of lock stitch but have no experience on this machine. It's more difficult to tune a machine when you don't know what ito should be doing! I appreciate your attention to this matter. It's been very helpful. Silverd

Very cool. I did not know this. Any effect on how the back side stitch lays down? I'm also used to a much greater bobbin tension. Using only the weight of the bobbin in the case as a means to set the tension seems low. Silverd

Kgg. Thank you so much for this latest info. Wow. I'm blown away that you took the time to help me. You mentioned in a previous note to make sure bobbin is loaded correctly in bobbin case. Oops! It was not according to the Juki manual and I have since corrected that. I'll re-thread the machine per your latest recommendation and go from there. Obviously the bobbin direction being wrong was the primary cause of my issues but thread tension is also contributing.

Thank you. I have more equipment than knowledge at this point... Silverd

I'll adjust the top thread tensioner per your suggestion (rotate to 2 O-clock) Bobbin: Counter clock wise rotation of bobbin is how its set-up I have bobbin tension set way high. Will reduce accordingly to your suggestion I only have the needles that came with the machine at this point. They are the correct size 135 X 18, 20, 22, 23 etc but are mostly the 17 series needles for fabric. I have an order in for 16 type needles in all compatible sizes coming. The needle used to sew the sample in my photo is a 16 series. I'll post more photos per your request later today

TEX90 135/ 16. I must have needle / thread sizing issues going on. Looking over the stash of needles that the previous owner provided makes me think she was not fully engaged. .kinda like me! I'll review my needs more closely. Foe instance, I have a bunch of 17 needles.

Thank you. Very good advice. I believe the machine will sew to expectationso if set up properly. I'll post some results later this evening. Silverd

I'll advance your advice. Thank you. Silverd

Great story Wizcrafts... I made the purchase of a DNU-1541S with servo & table yesterday. Drove 3 hours both ways to the owners home. Have to say I'm not super happy with the deal that went down. The problem with investing travel time in used equipment is that it suggests you are committed to bringing it home and reduces your ability to negotiate. This machine did not sew when I arrived. I brought thread and sample leather to evaluate it with. Spent 2 hours attempting to get it to make a stitch. Its a newer machine and should work pretty well without a lot of fanfare but that was not to be. Finally got it working and did bring it home but it was a painful experience. Spent the evening cleaning and lubricating. Top tension wire spring and pulley needed fixing, there was no tension release rod for some reason so I made one out of a modified 441 # 27 needle and generally got it work better but it lays down an ugly back side stitch with 138 thread and # 23 needle. Achieving sufficient top tension is challenging. Event after wrapping the thread around and around the guides (as shown in the manual) plus a few more turns and a highly tightened tensioner but still not enough. #T90 thread is in there now and seems like a better fit but I'm still working out the tension details...Really ugly bottom stitch so some further adjusting to be done or is this just how these machines are? Silverd

Great information. It certainly clears things up for me. I like the idea of the bigger drop in bobbin but I may have to settle for the liggter system. Have an opportunity to pick up a new 1541S complete for a very good price and if it will sew T138 it should serve my needs. Thank you Silverd

Ok...yes I understand. Not sure why I thought they use the same system. So will the 1541 handle 138 thread ok? Silverd

The 1541 will handle 138 top and bottom okay? I would need that for sure with little performance compromise. 69- 138 is about all I will be using this machine for. Silverd

KGG: Very helpful review. Thank you. Most significant relevance to my application regarding the differences may be bobbin size. I understand from reading marketing information that one machine will pick-up the lower thread without removing the work piece should the bobbin run dry midstream... If the 1541S accomplishes this feat it would be a nice alternative to the larger bobbin offered on the 1508. Another nice feature of both these (light version) machines are their 441 compatible needle systems. This simplifies life in my shop to a degree since I own a 441. And lastly my application need is to so sew wallets / hand bags etc and as such either would appear to work. Another short string of questions I have on same topic is with respect to the previous Juki model LU-563. What is the current production equivalent? How does the bobbin size of the 563 compare with the 1541S and 1508? There is not an advantage the 563 has over one of the current production models is there? From a product / manufacture / good business view it would not make sense to redesign a complete new family of products with actual lesser capability or reliability. Yet a well used 563 sells for about the same as a slightly used 1541S. Silverd

Hi Wizcrafts Can you help me understand the difference between the juki dnu1541s and the juki du1508ns? Silverd

Nice! Is it a DNU- 1541S. OR 1541? Servo motor?

Hi Still available? Silverd

Up-Date on this topic: Received all the necessary supplies: Stirrup Butt 1/2 hide Stainless Steel Stirrup buckles Polyester / Cotton Core Spun 18/5 thread Many thanks to all who helped Photos to follow. Silverd

I'm dully impressed with the finish you have obtained and would encourage you to continue as well as exploring other venues that expose your work to more appreciative customers who are looking for and willing to pay for top quality products. Silverd

Still available? Silverd

Hi I got up one morning a couple years ago and told my wife..."Honey, I think I'm going to learn to play the Violin". Well that's how I feel trying to learn the leather trade these past two years. It's not an easy assignment and I'm a good student candidate having 40 years experience working in mechanical engineering, product design and manufacturing. Plus i have some OCD going! I'm preparing myself for retirement in a couple of years and dove in pretty deep investing thousands of $ in equipment, tools and shop infrastructure as well as spending all of my free time learning and turning big hides into small pieces most of which I think end up in my scrap box or the trash. But it's been a wonderful journey so far and I'm getting a few customers finally who I haven't completely disappointed! All of it i must say would not be even remotely possible without the help of a leatherworker.net member Sharon of Big Sioux Saddlery who I met on this site. She is the only reason I'm still at it. As a mentor she has the strictest of professional expectations and though thousand miles away has been pretty effective at sharing her 35 + years of experience in the equestrian community. I am blessed to have her looking after me as I fumble my way along. Thank you Big Sioux! Silverd

Flesh side out I knew about. Nice pattern and interesting thread type. It could wear less under strain because it doesn't stretch? Silverd