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Single Six Dummy Gun?
Frank replied to Bronson's topic in Gun Holsters, Rifle Slings and Knife Sheathes
If you can get a Colt Frontier .22 dummy gun from Duncan's, I believe they are very close to the same frame size. I thought Duncan's had the Frontier at one time but not sure at the moment. Frank -
No problem at all. Always try it in an inconspicuous place first but I think it will do exactly what you want it to. If you don't like it, email me and I'll buy the rest of the gallon from you. I can never have too much on hand! Frank
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Dink, One other oil that I use exclusively is Weaver's U-82 Saddlers Oil. It is a very thin oil , almost a water consistency that is not greasy and leaves no surface residue. Once you put it on, the leather comes back to original color within a days time. I'm not sure how many people here have used it. I started using it when my saddle making instructor and I were trying out different oils one day. We had about 6 or 7 that were were playing around with but this stuff was amazing. If you get a chance to pick up a gallon, I'd definitely give it a shot. Frank
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I like the tool as well. I believe in an earlier post he said that it was initially made out of a piece of aluminum and once perfected then using stainless.
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There are a few different ways to lace them together. I have heard it called the Mexican braid, it all depends on who is using the term. I believe it is in Al Stohlman's saddle making book. If it isn't there, it is for certain in Bruce Grant's book: Leather Braiding. For about $8.00-$9.00 you can't go wrong with that book. I have no diagrams otherwise I'd post them. Someone here might have them. I hope this helps out a bit. Frank
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MrBill, Welcome to the forum. What I think you are referring to is adding a finish or top coat to the leather. Top coats vary greatly from mellow, satin, and high gloss in liquids, and aerosols. Some need to be thinned and others do not. Each individual has their own preference depending on the type of leather work they are doing. Your best bet as far as I'm concerned is take a look at Fiebings website: Finishes and see what they have to offer and what looks "fun" to try. Most stores that specialize in leather will have Fiebings products. I'd purchase a few different 4 oz containers of the finishes and try them on some scrap to see which ones you like the best and you can always order larger amounts later when you figure out what you like. You can also call Fiebings and talk to them about the different finishes. They are pretty knowledgeable and friendly. They are right down the street from me, so I just go for a visit once in a while! I hope that helps out a bit. Frank
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I've used some leftover chap scraps to make some of the impossible braid bracelets to give out during different holidays, birthdays, events, etc. I have a whole medium sized shipping box of them cut out. I just pull one or two out when I need them and braid and then add a snap. Frank
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I have talked to these people before about a bunch of different tools that they make and carry. I believe they also frequent this site, from previous conversations with them. I believe they have a full money back guarantee on all of their tools if your not happy with them. Their direct email address is: Dleibering at aol dot com and the woman's name is Donna. Frank
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Weaver carries them in their new 2010 catalog. Someone else had a post on here similar to yours and named off a couple other places that carry them. You might want to do a search if you don't have an account with weaver. Frank
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Thanks for the info. I was guessing as well that the rig was completely hand made but that was the other thing that I put in the first post. I wasn't sure if colt at one time had contracted any custom leather work out to anyone. I didn't think they had a production line of any leather products such as a rig like that. Both items were a pretty good find. The gun is about a 1958 and I figured the rig was about the same time frame. Somehow they ended up finding each other before I bought them.
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As promised, here are a few pics of the rig that came with the gun, along with a photo of the gun. Frank
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I will be posting pictures of the rig in a day or so. I just cleaned the leather today, re-burnished the edges as much as possible and oiled it. When the oil evens out a bit more then I'll get some posted. Frank
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Hopefully someone out there has the knowledge to help me out on this one. I just picked up an old fully engraved Great Western Arms revolver this past week. What came with the gun intrigued me just as much. There was an old style 50's-60's fast draw holster and belt with the word "Colt" carved on the belt and the holster had the rampant colt carved on it. It fits a SAA with 4 3/4" bbl. While I was cleaning the leather the lexol foamed up on the backside and there were the words "Custom Made By Jeff Brown" carved not stamped into the back of the belt. I would never have seen the lettering if it weren't for the lexol. Has anyone heard of this maker, history, etc.? I wasn't sure if he made custom leather for Colt at one time, or even if Colt offered anything like that. I've tried googling the info several different ways, but couldn't come up with anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Frank
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I just noticed in Bork's Saddlery Hardware catalog that the do make a few different models of horns, one being the nice domed exposed horn. If interested, email me directly at: frank@rockingksaddlery.com and I will get this scanned to the best of my ability and email you a copy of it. Other wise you can call Herb or Nadene at: (541) 276-5207 and request a catalog from them. Frank
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They might be down to the 8-10 oz now but by June they'll have 8-10, 10-12, 12-14 listed again for the #3 grade. They will split them for you for an extra fee since they are the cheaper sides. I bought 7 sides the last time and I had 3 of the sides split and they didn't charge for it. Talk to Glenn at W/C, he is pretty good to deal with and usually goes out of his way to make you happy. Like I said, I have only had to send 1 of the #3 grades sent back because it was actually something that wasn't usable at all, so pretty good service that way.
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What they don't tell you on their website is that the sale happens every month for the entire month. They just might not have same same weights in the same colors every month or they might add something different. Don't worry about not meeting the sale deadline is my point as it is an ongoing thing. Frank
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How To Tell The Age And Maker Of A Saddle
Frank replied to mzfhredi1's topic in Saddle Identification, Restoration & Repair
I'm going to take a shot in the dark with this one. It really looks to me like a saddle that was mass produced "south of the border" and shipped up here by the truck loads and sold at horse auctions all over the place for around $200 at the time. I cannot attest to it but that is what it looks like to me from the photos. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Frank -
Their number 3 and their special is about the same grade. I order their specials all of the time, usually 6-7 sides. I ask Glenn (ext.222) to pick out some of their best special sides for me personally and so far I have had only one complaint on my end, which is pretty good. They do have some marks and blemishes that can usually be covered up once you add a finish coat to whatever you are using it for, the only exception being the russet carving sides. Those blemishes are nearly impossible to cover. I can get about 10-12 holsters from a side without any blemishes on them, which is still a pretty good profit margin. The scraps I can make coasters, etc. from. I hope that helps out a little bit. Frank
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If you have the chance and the few extra bucks, order Chuck Burrows' holster making dvd, it will help you out quite a bit You can find them at: Burrows It is a great DVD to have in your collection Frank
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I started my full time leather business right smack dab in the beginning of the recession. I started out with saddles and then diversified into gun leather and cowboy gear. I had a hell of a go at it for a while but then things started to pick up a little here and there. Mostly with SASS guys and Cowboy Action Shooters. One thing that happens when we elect a Democrat president is that gun sales always go through the roof. I'd go a month and maybe make about $200-$300 or so, just enough to keep my hopes up. This last week I did about $700 worth of business just in holsters alone. I think people are starting to come around to the "American Made Product" way of thinking. I let them know that the leather is from US hides and they are tanned here in the US, giving them a chance to keep their own people in business. I hear nothing but compliments from my customers. More often than not, they order 2-3 different items from me after they get their first custom made holster, belt, etc. I give them my guarantee which will outlast the guarantee you get from any "import, factory made" leather item. They really seem to cotton to that and are willing to listen. I've also been offering 10% off their second order up to $250 and 5% over $250, just to give them an incentive to come back. It's a give a little take a little situation right now since we are all feeling he push. And yes, I have traded leather work to get items I wanted/needed and didn't have the extra cash to pay for. Bartering works pretty well in some respects. Another thing I do that seems to help quite a bit is offer a Veteran's discount. Since I'm a Vet myself, I have heard nothing but great comments from people after they visit my website. Quite a few ordered simply because I am willing to give Vets a discount and they aren't even Vets themselves. I've had customers ask me to send them 20-30 business cards so they could hand them out to friends. Now it seems I am rambling a bit and could go on forever but I went to a trade show a few weeks ago. I met a lot of great people and took some orders and sold items off the table. The individual who ran the trade show flat out told me that my gear was too nice to sell there. He said that most people at the show were looking for well broken-in floppy type thin gun leather. He basically told me if I sold crap gun leather at the show I would do much better selling. I reminded him that if I wanted to sell items that were already broken in by me, then the people would have to pay $40-$50 more per item. Me being me, I cannot lower my standards just to sell because my name is on the product. If it doesn't meet my specs, it does go in the trash! Just my 10.5 cents worth there
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Ruger Blackhawk Pattern
Frank replied to Frank's topic in Gun Holsters, Rifle Slings and Knife Sheathes
Mongo, Thanks for the replies and info. That is exactly what I thought and needed. I do not have the OMV to mold with but will take your advice on the molding trick. I do appreciate it very much. Frank -
Ruger Blackhawk Pattern
Frank replied to Frank's topic in Gun Holsters, Rifle Slings and Knife Sheathes
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. I am using 9-10 oz leather without a lining or a welt on most of the holsters unless otherwise requested. I'd like to wet fit the gun myself but without a molding gun I am at a disadvantage so the pattern has to be a very close fit. If you have a spare body pattern, I'd definitely pay you for it. Thanks again. Frank -
Ruger Blackhawk Pattern
Frank replied to Frank's topic in Gun Holsters, Rifle Slings and Knife Sheathes
Thanks Bobby. Do you think I should had a 1/4" or 1/2" onto the pattern? I planned on making a lower cut throat on the front of holster so I didn't have to worry too much about the rear sight being knocked about. Thanks again. Frank -
Hey all, I have a question regarding the Ruger Blackhawk. I have had 2 requests for holsters for this gun but I do not have a specific pattern and purchasing a dummy gun is out right now. At least for another couple of weeks. Do any of you know if the Ruger Blackhawk and the Ruger Old Model Vaquero can use the same pattern? I wasn't sure with the target sights compared to the standard blade and notch sights if they would fit the same holster or if I should add a 1/4" or so to the pattern width. I appreciate any assistance. Frank
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Paxton I'm not sure about using neatsfoot oil on the backside. I only oil the top side. The oil will even itself out by drawing further down in the leather. I think if you oil the back then you have a chance of oil seeping onto clothing if you end up oiling too heavy and not giving it enough time to even out and dissipate. Frank