DrmCa Report post Posted January 9, 2022 Ole' Tex Shoemaker used to make these: What kind and weight of leather are they? I do not feel bad about wanting to copy them because the company is no longer in business and also because I am going to change the design a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsunkasapa Report post Posted January 9, 2022 It looks like veg-tan. As to weight, I would think 6-8oz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joon1911 Report post Posted January 9, 2022 I concur, veg tan almost certainly. If it were me, I’d use 7-8 oz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeRock Report post Posted January 9, 2022 My old ones were 8 oz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hags Report post Posted January 10, 2022 Yeah, I would think 7/8. Bet he had a clicker die for that front! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrmCa Report post Posted January 10, 2022 Much appreciated! So it's 3mm, give or take. I bet that front was one of the reasons they went under: due to the wastage of so much good leather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck123wapati Report post Posted January 10, 2022 8 hours ago, DrmCa said: Much appreciated! So it's 3mm, give or take. I bet that front was one of the reasons they went under: due to the wastage of so much good leather. more likely old age. that picture has to be 60 year old at least. Yea i make mine from two pieces of strap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt S Report post Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 2:37 PM, DrmCa said: Ole' Tex Shoemaker used to make these: What kind and weight of leather are they? I do not feel bad about wanting to copy them because the company is no longer in business and also because I am going to change the design a bit. That's a neat design! As @Hags says, once they got the design just right it's an ideal candidate for a clicker die. I reckon it's regular old tooling russet. Maybe some skirting scrap if they had a source from a Western style saddle maker. Shoulder would be my preference, but any not-too-stretchy part would do fine. 13 hours ago, DrmCa said: I bet that front was one of the reasons they went under: due to the wastage of so much good leather. How much leather do you guesstimate is in the thing? Maybe a quarter to half a SQFT? Even if it came from "virgin" hide not scrap/offcut you're not looking at an awful lot of $ of raw material... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck123wapati Report post Posted January 10, 2022 14 hours ago, DrmCa said: Much appreciated! So it's 3mm, give or take. I bet that front was one of the reasons they went under: due to the wastage of so much good leather. you can make these out of strap with no waste, no fancy cutters in minutes, just my opine but those are way overthunk! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PastorBob Report post Posted January 10, 2022 41 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: you can make these out of strap with no waste, no fancy cutters in minutes, just my opine but those are way overthunk! That is definitely an easy pattern, Chuck. Thanks for posting the photo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck123wapati Report post Posted January 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, PastorBob said: That is definitely an easy pattern, Chuck. Thanks for posting the photo YW they work well for extra black powder cylinders also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AzShooter Report post Posted January 10, 2022 Love the design Chuck. I'm going to have to make a few or some speed loaders I have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrmCa Report post Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: you can make these out of strap with no waste, no fancy cutters in minutes, just my opine but those are way overthunk! That's what I am aiming for though mine will be a tad larger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck123wapati Report post Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, AzShooter said: Love the design Chuck. I'm going to have to make a few or some speed loaders I have. thank you. that was the prototype lol. They look much nicer when done completely. Edited January 10, 2022 by chuck123wapati Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck123wapati Report post Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, DrmCa said: That's what I am aiming for though mine will be a tad larger. larger than a 44? eek lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt S Report post Posted January 10, 2022 4 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: you can make these out of strap with no waste, no fancy cutters in minutes, just my opine but those are way overthunk! One of the great things about making stuff out of leather is that there are many ways to skin a particular cat. Your design is very clever for being so efficient. I think that I would prefer the design in the OP as it appears to have more positive retention and the increased rigidity is less likely to rotate up on the belt during a hasty reload. To each his own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck123wapati Report post Posted January 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Matt S said: One of the great things about making stuff out of leather is that there are many ways to skin a particular cat. Your design is very clever for being so efficient. I think that I would prefer the design in the OP as it appears to have more positive retention and the increased rigidity is less likely to rotate up on the belt during a hasty reload. To each his own. Your right that is the good thing, likely i; m sure but it doesn't I know cause i have one or two. Anyway one thing i do know from actually making and using my design and looking at his is that the top flap hinders the reload more than anything, and it is the primary reason either style would rotate up on the belt not the speed loaders them selves they are not in tight, at least mine aren't it should be a one handed operation. You may notice my top flap is long enough it hangs a bit below the bottom allowing easier manipulation of the snap and flap, think upside down thumb break. The hand comes up from the bottom unsnapping and moving the flap at the same time. Unlike the Velcro on his the snap is much easier to unfasten so doesn't pull the holster with it. As you can see by the temporary attachments I did spend some time thinking and working this out. Make the snap tongue to long and it catches on stuff, make it to short and its not easy to open. if you want it stiffer then use heavier leather on the back strap. Just other options and ideas the man can use or not that's what the forum is for right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
