Members chrisash Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) Really not just leather machines but basically all except the Sailrite company I admit I spend some time on YouTube and often come across Sailrite videos, if you look at their site you find a mass of information about both their machines and popular items on how to make items, plus full details of the parts and fault finding My point is whilst others just advertise their machines with a few basic facts about them little is really done to build confidence that the companies really care for anything apart from money, They have the knowledge and keep it to themselves even Juki give you the basics and maybe a rating video but little else The web is a fantastic way to sell, just like Sailrite shows, maybe time others followed suite you never know maybe including service manuals and strip down diagrams or say methods of setups for different materials. so much they could offer to make you buy from them instead of say another make or clone Edited February 11, 2022 by chrisash Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
MtlBiker Posted February 11, 2022 Report Posted February 11, 2022 That amazing customer support from Sailrite, both direct via email and phone, plus the incredible videos they post, is the main reason I bought my LSZ-1 Premium with WorkerB motor. The machine is really good, but what puts this head and shoulders above most others is that support. Quote Current machines: Janome HD3000 and Skyline S5, Consew 206RB-5, Singer Profinish serger, Techsew 2750 PRO, Sailrite LSZ-1 Premium, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members Spyros Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 Makers and sellers are often entirely different companies. The maker is usually in China and has nothing to do with you as a customer, it's the seller/distributor in your country that you want to be more active. Quote
Members chrisash Posted February 11, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) OK change it to Seller/ Distributer or maker It's still poor marketing lost opportunity at little cost but great service. Yes there are YouTube video's done by others on the internet about for instance Upholstery or sewing leather but little or nothing on the sites selling machines Edited February 11, 2022 by chrisash Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
kgg Posted February 11, 2022 Report Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, chrisash said: It's still poor marketing lost opportunity at little cost but great service. Finding reviews / video's / capabilities / specs of industrial sewing machines in general are pretty much left up to the individual dealers to provide whereas if you were looking for a domestic sewing machine there are many sites that do sort of side by side comparisons of different manufacturers machines. I guess the leather part of the industry is just too small / specialized area in the overall scheme of things. Also not every dealer / distributor has the expertise / want to provide the same level of information as the Sailrite site. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members DrmCa Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 We the hobbyists and mom and pop shops may not be their main customer base. Could they be more active in the corporate segment from which they get most of their profits? Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 11, 2022 Moderator Report Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, chrisash said: OK change it to Seller/ Distributor or maker It's still poor marketing lost opportunity at little cost but great service. Yes there are YouTube video's done by others on the internet about for instance Upholstery or sewing leather but little or nothing on the sites selling machines The dealers I know are very small businesses, often with one or two people on the job. There isn't much time to do videos when your day involves taking orders, setting up, shipping, receiving, picking up, ordering, or repairing sewing machines, while also responding to email, phone and forum inquiries. Larger companies, with numerous employees, have more time to setup a video room and learn to do it correctly. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Matt S Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, chrisash said: Really not just leather machines but basically all except the Sailrite company I admit I spend some time on YouTube and often come across Sailrite videos, if you look at their site you find a mass of information about both their machines and popular items on how to make items, plus full details of the parts and fault finding My point is whilst others just advertise their machines with a few basic facts about them little is really done to build confidence that the companies really care for anything apart from money, They have the knowledge and keep it to themselves even Juki give you the basics and maybe a rating video but little else The web is a fantastic way to sell, just like Sailrite shows, maybe time others followed suite you never know maybe including service manuals and strip down diagrams or say methods of setups for different materials. so much they could offer to make you buy from them instead of say another make or clone Sailrite are largely aimed at the amateur/hobby market, perhaps edging into the "sell enough to make a few bucks profit a month" level. Professionals don't tend to need to be advertised at -- if they're a small concern individual workers tend to have institutional knowledge from wherever they studied, and if they're larger concerns they either have an in-house technician to know these sorts of things or they go to a dealer and say "I need X number of machines that have Y capability. How fast do they go and what are your financing options?" Amateur/hobby leatherwork is a vanishingly tiny market for sewing machine manufacturers. Some dealers (such as Weaver) spend considerable resources to cater to that market because they reckon it's worth it. Most don't, and I can't really blame them for that. Same for manufacturers -- I bet Juki sells 1,000 industrial machines to manufacturers for every one they sell for someone to use for a hobby or one-man-band craft business. Juki turned over $657 million last year, and I doubt if even one tenth of a percent of that was selling industrial sewing machines to amateurs or hobbyists. I certainly don't call it laziness if they think they have bigger fish to fry than spoon-feeding Bill from Thraxton on the nuances between a pendulum and parallel feed. Edited February 11, 2022 by Matt S Quote
CFM tsunkasapa Posted February 12, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 12, 2022 If you buy a car/truck, do you expect the manufacturer to teach you how to drive? When you buy a sewing machine is it up to the company to teach you how to use it? That ball is in your court. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
Members Spyros Posted February 12, 2022 Members Report Posted February 12, 2022 10 hours ago, chrisash said: OK change it to Seller/ Distributer or maker It's still poor marketing lost opportunity at little cost but great service. Yes there are YouTube video's done by others on the internet about for instance Upholstery or sewing leather but little or nothing on the sites selling machines If you look at who those dealers are, you'll find in most countries it's like a dude and his wife sort of thing. Sewing machines sales are so infrequent that this is all it takes, but it probably leaves no time for marketing activities. Quote
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