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Anybody using PS or IL to make patterns? Other software using .psd files?

Never cared for the style myself. If worn on the strong side, pretty much impossible to get at the mag with the weak side hand. If worn front 'n' center, I SURE don't like where that's pointing. I know, I know.... probably never a problem - but I wouldn't be able to think about much else. How ya likin' them clips, though? I really like those toughclips.

Any interest in these? Got TOO much stuff in TOO many different places. Just want to clean up, gain some space and organization again. No time to bang out a bunch of belts, or I'd just use these up. Hermann Oak "B" grade 1 1/2" wide. Clean leather. Most between 46"-50" long, so make belts in the size 38-42 range. I don't have the time or the patience to send these out 1 at a time, but I'll send 'em 3 for $45 (that's shipped price). Want more than 3? I'll send the 4th, 5th, 6th @ $12 each. Seriously, you can't cut 'em yourself at this price (not out of HO "B"). Message, email or call, text,.. whatever. Looking at 7 right now, but I'll likely find more as I go through this closet ...

Well, 'preciatecha.. but I just meant that jus cuz it is often done doesn't mean it's SUPPOSED TO be that way

Just a reminder.. don't over complicate stuff. HolsterSlotTemplates.pdf

I got SEVEN o' these... one end die cut... ready to tool 'n' trim (fit 1' stock swivels and wider). ALL SEVEN for $84 shipped. pic attached - these are just over 40" I think 20190819_181322.pdf

FOund one more... 4 above plus a S/W Shield 9/.40 Got that? That's FIVE mag molds. All from RIngs, all slight use. $70 gits em shipped. That's about 1/3 what these cost, so no - they won't be going any cheaper than this. Don't forget to check on these ready to trim n' tool gun slings. 8/9 oz cowhide...

It's common because there are SO many out there making things to sell. NOt all of them know what they are doing, and not all of them assume that YOU will know the difference (buyer beware). I don't know if that's "normal" for that business or not. If something is handmade, it should be BETTER than one that isn't. IF it's not, then WHY pay more?@! HAND MADE means each should have been individually inspected for quality. This one clearly was not. TO be clear, making a belt dual layer does NOT make it wrinkle. Any time you bend something you will have tension on teh outside and compression on the inside. But that in your picture is a LEATHER QUALITY issue, not a curve issue.

You use the word "normal".... which can mean either normal - "common" or normal- "inevitable" That GRAIN SEPARATION is COMMON, but is not INEVITABLE. You see it frequently, but it's unacceptable. That is not compression wrinkling (which you see commonly on the back of poorly done holsters). That has actually had the grain layer of the leather distorted - the leather lacks density. For my money, the supplier would get that one BACK.

Truth be told, you're probably accomplishing more each week than many "leather workers" really care to do at all. Many of them, I suspect, retired from or are still currently at jobs where they got a check simply because they were there, "clocked in". Actual operation, maintenance, work flow, material acquisition, inventory, cash flow.... all somebody else's problem. Which is why they are there. And if the place caught fire, their biggest "worry" was who will be supplying them with money next week As such, I'd dare say many just don't "get" the idea of having machinery, much less "figgerin" how to replace a broken belt that isn't available over the counter. Necessity the mother of invention, I guess -- and many Americans don't see the point of actual work if somebody is already giving you money anyway. [The midwest American farmer an EXCEPTION, I stand on my feet when I meet that guy and shake his hand]. Lemme guess... you machined those pulleys in the pic yourself? But, your topic was not without value (did me some good). You are to be commended for making the offer. Not to mention that's a NICE lookin' wallet back a bit.

I was just making the point that if I spend an hour and a half watching a video of some unlearned fish (pronounced Dumb Bass) trace around a gun with a pencil, SOMEBODY should shoot me, cuz I've clearly lost the good sense to do it myself. I lack time to do that, and if I had the time, I'd lack the patience for it anyway. I'm typing all this because I'm at home today and kids are asleep, so I can't make a bunch of noise just yet. With that... I give the topic back to @RockyAussie -- Im out

I think that's the issue he's attempting to address. THAT ALONE makes any video in that direction UNLIKE what is currently available. Most videos (I don't say all because i haven't seen all) DELIBERATELY drag out a simple idea in an attempt to "baffle you with BS"... standard cheap trick marketing. Longer we can get you to sit there staring at some pointless, nearly useless pictures, the more "ads" and "commercials" we can stick in there. And the more time your competition is getting something accomplished and you are not. I've seen quite a few "holster videos" (the quotes because THEY called it that, even if I wouldn't call it that). One effeminate "leather guy"... made an HOUR AND A HALF video about making a holster.. which covered the information in Stohlman's "how to make holsters" book, ONE HALF of what is on PAGE 6. Hmmm.. lemme see... I can pay for a video (or more ignorant, a SUBSCRIPTION to videos) and sit for HOURS of NOT doing leather stuff, or i can download a free e-book, use the money I didn't spend on the CARNIVAL SHOW to buy LEATHER, and actually get some EXPERIENCE ... So, I'm the 'NOT VIDEO' guy - according to some who pretend to pay attention - but I'm ALL FOR somebody offering USEFUL INFORMATION for those who want it.

Having said all that, lemme also say this. Your videos may be a step UP on most of what is "out there". ACTUAL INFO... not just some "look at me, look at me" cheap marketing crap, showing me the same thing 100 other videos already show (ughh.. HOW MANY videos say "may not be THE way, but this the way I do it...", and then do exactly what 100 others did ?@!$!). So, I might watch one, er two, depending on content stated. I wouldn't be interested in any "subscription". Course, I'm that guy... if I like it, I will SAY that. ANd if I don't like it, I say that too.

Careful, you soundin' like me https://www.jlsleather.com/hand-made-well-made One sensitive little @!@$! used to be on this site a bit, got all mad and bitchy when I pointed out that taking a piece of leather, "hand sewing' around the edge, and calling it a "guitar strap" does not make it worth $100 (okay sure - Mom will buy one for that price). Unless it belonged to Elvis, I can get that same thing in any music store for $20 U.S. But I guess I'd not be in the videos. Since you asked, I'll briefly mull over why that is. Your video with the wallets (above) shows some useful info. But it's extreme for what I do. Though we don't see her move the "fence' or "rail" or "stop" (or what ya call it over there) between 'rows', i 'get' the idea. That would certainly be useful to have somebody building those, just follow the guides - not a lot of training time involved. But I don't have employees, or any desire to have any (been there, and NEVER agin). But I could see benefit of somebody ELSE making that type of thing.. I DO think there would be a market for WELL MADE leather wallet "innards" you could put in place and go. I would buy them, but I'm not high-output enough to justify doing it OR be a good customer for the guy doing it. I used to make alot of that style of wallet, though mine were usually tooled leather. Well, 'a lot" meaning dozens, not thousands. I'd make liners much like yours about 10-12 at a time... set them in a box on a shelf - and when somebody ordered a wallet (yes, usually just one at a time) I carve and color, then sew in the liner which is already done. So I get the "prep" thing of it. I did enough "pre-season" so I didn't have to rush around, swapping out tooling and space to go from wallet to liner and back. Usually worked. Meanwhile, I guess that puts me somewhere in between. I try to do all the sewing I need to do with black #277 thread before changing the spool. Holsters, belts, cases,.. don't matter. If it gits 277 black, nows the time. Then switch to next thread i have projects waiting on. Occasionally get "caught" and have to swap out to get one done on schedule, but usually best practice. And I don't have or want the SPACE to store 100's of finished goods. But when somebody orders a holster, I generally make TWO - thus not in that same predicament in a week. For me, maybe should spend my money on more DIES than videos. SO many people love to watch a video, so they can tell theyself they're "working".. but really they just finding an excuse to not get up and DO IT. [I recently enrolled in a gym - well, wife signed me up really. More older folk than I remember from gyms in the past. The favorite "exercises" for overweight older men? bench press and 4-player racketball. Sounds good? Uh, no. Bench press - "you mean I get to LAY DOWN and call it exercise?@!" and 4-player in a small court means everybody has a reason not to move much at all]

as you well should.

I LIKE an honest guy. SO many videos offering to "help" you, or "partner with" you, and "be there for you"... as you learn something in leather. For a price To have a guy just come on out and say "I would like to know what sort of a market there would be in making and selling in some form" is REFRESHING. Guess my level of interest would depend on the subject matter. We aint got too many salty crocs in Iowa, but some the principles be the same surely. So are you talking about "leather" videos, or "production" videos?

maybe. or maybe just means people can rely on you to share pertinent, useful info without posting in every freakin' thread that gets started

Uhh.. if you put 'em on the same table together, they'd be 'reasonably close' But that sig purdy stout equipment,... MAYBE a glock 21 could git modified to work?

i dont' know. Which is pointless and not at all helpful. I'll keep it short so I don't waste lots of time for either of us. But I never replied to something to say "i don't know"... so figured it was my turn. (in fact, the person who replied was exactly the person I expected to reply )

Yeah, tha's "filigree", but not that well. Looks like somebody punched round hole punch on the ends, then didn't cut very precisely to line up with the round punch. See that sometimes when a guy don't take into consideration that round (or arch) punches are generally tapered to allow the slug to come out... so the deeper you drive 'em the bigger the hole..