Recommend a permanent low sheen sealer

[tsunkasapa]

15 hours ago, jasonsmith said:

For the last time, I'm not using Mop and Glo.

Personally I don't use ANY of the acrylic garbage on my leather. Nor do I put varnish on good wood. But you choose to use it, fine. But acting like a petulant child when a dozen people have recommended M&G as opposed to the same thing in a different bottle just makes you look foolish. With that, I will put you and your petulance on the Ignore list. Life is too short to deal with pigheaded foolishness.

[chuck123wapati]

1 hour ago, Mablung said:

I've been reading this for the amusement factor.

I think I'll give Mop & Glo a try.

I find it interesting how conditioned folks are to consumerism and the illusion presented that you don't have to think at all you just blindly accept what the "expert", paid actor, on tv is telling you. Pt Barnum said there is a fool born every minute, Big business ran with that thought.

[Mablung]

1 minute ago, chuck123wapati said:

I find it interesting how conditioned folks are to consumerism and the illusion presented that you don't have to think at all you just blindly accept what the "expert", paid actor, on tv is telling you. Pt Barnum said there is a fool born every minute, Big business ran with that thought.

It really is.  My first thought, when reading some of the replies about different products, was, "Well, there aren't that many different ways to create an acrylic sealer that can be buffed to become shiny.  Just look at the ingredients and see if the tiny bottle contains the same stuff in roughly the same proportions as the big bottle, then use the stuff in the big bottle for a fraction of the price-per-ounce.  Bada bing, bada boom."

But then, there is no accounting for taste.  Or for the tendency of people to insist something is true if and only if a supposed expert says it.

[jasonsmith]

3 minutes ago, tsunkasapa said:

Personally I don't use ANY of the acrylic garbage on my leather. Nor do I put varnish on good wood. But you choose to use it, fine. But acting like a petulant child when a dozen people have recommended M&G as opposed to the same thing in a different bottle just makes you look foolish. With that, I will put you and your petulance on the Ignore list. Life is too short to deal with pigheaded foolishness.

Do you put Mop and Glo on your pancakes? So funny how many people act like children just because I turned down using Mop and Glo as I wanted to stick with traditional sealers sold a leather shops. I think some people here have been drinking it. If anyone is upset because I'm not using your favorite product, then best keep that to yourself than come here whining about it like a baby.

[fredk]

The chap does not want to use Mop & Go

Now, of the regular leather shop sealers which meets his needs?

tbh, all the ones I have dry matt or with a slight sheen, never a high gloss. It might be because I apply sealer diluted

[jasonsmith]

7 minutes ago, fredk said:

The chap does not want to use Mop & Go

Now, of the regular leather shop sealers which meets his needs?

tbh, all the ones I have dry matt or with a slight sheen, never a high gloss. It might be because I apply sealer diluted

Thanks, yeah, just don't get why people want to keep harassing me page after page just because I opted not to use Mop and Glo. Maybe I should start another thread on this topic with this disclaimer: "Not interested in Mop and Glo, don't mention it. I'm sticking with products that are supposed to be used on leather".

[chiefjason]

1 hour ago, jasonsmith said:

Thanks, yeah, just don't get why people want to keep harassing me page after page just because I opted not to use Mop and Glo. Maybe I should start another thread on this topic with this disclaimer: "Not interested in Mop and Glo, don't mention it. I'm sticking with products that are supposed to be used on leather".

 

Then if you use ANY liquid sealant you're just using repurposed, more expensive Mop & Glo.  That's the ridiculous part, but you just refuse to listen.  The MSD sheet, which is the ingredient list, is nearly identical.  

You choose to believe the internet about it cracking.  Which no one here seems to have experienced.  But refuse to believe any of the positive experience here.  I'll take a stab at it that as many folks here have positive experiences as the number of negative one's you have encounters on the net.  And if I had to guess the cracking is from two reasons, either applying without diluting or cheap leather.  FWIW, I've had dedicated sealant crack when applied full strength.  But mostly I've had cheap leather that cracked.  

I'm guessing you don't use generic medicine either?  

I guess you've picked your side and refuse to even consider changing.  OK.  But our suggestions meet the criteria of your first post.  And meet it better than ANYTHING else I have used.  Which is why I use it.  You changed your initial criteria as soon as M&G was mentioned, even thought it meets what you wanted initially.  I mean, you get to do that.  And I get to think your obstinance is silly and unnecessary if you would try to listen to those more experienced than you.  Which is what we thought you wanted.  Guess we were wrong there.  

[bladegrinder]

I use Resolene cut 50% with distilled water. I use an airbrush to apply it. 2-3 light coats is usually good and the leather has a nice glow. Now if I were to go several more coats or go heavy with them then yes, it looks like it’s plastic coated to me and looks awful. But I’ve been doing it this way for years and everyone seems to like the finish. Would mop and glow be the same? Who knows, I really don’t care myself. I’m just using what I’ve been doing for years and don’t foresee changing things up now.

[jasonsmith]

3 hours ago, chiefjason said:

 

Then if you use ANY liquid sealant you're just using repurposed, more expensive Mop & Glo.  That's the ridiculous part, but you just refuse to listen.  The MSD sheet, which is the ingredient list, is nearly identical.  

You choose to believe the internet about it cracking.  Which no one here seems to have experienced.  But refuse to believe any of the positive experience here.  I'll take a stab at it that as many folks here have positive experiences as the number of negative one's you have encounters on the net.  And if I had to guess the cracking is from two reasons, either applying without diluting or cheap leather.  FWIW, I've had dedicated sealant crack when applied full strength.  But mostly I've had cheap leather that cracked.  

I'm guessing you don't use generic medicine either?  

I guess you've picked your side and refuse to even consider changing.  OK.  But our suggestions meet the criteria of your first post.  And meet it better than ANYTHING else I have used.  Which is why I use it.  You changed your initial criteria as soon as M&G was mentioned, even thought it meets what you wanted initially.  I mean, you get to do that.  And I get to think your obstinance is silly and unnecessary if you would try to listen to those more experienced than you.  Which is what we thought you wanted.  Guess we were wrong there.  

I didn't "change" my criteria after Mop and Glo was mentioned. I've only used sealer bought from a leather shop and wasn't aware of people using floor cleaner to seal leather. I only "clarified" my criteria after being suggested to use floor cleaner. 

I've not "refused" to believe anyone. People can have positive or negative experiences, it doesn't change the fact that I have no interest in experimenting, especially when we are talking about sealing $40 worth of leather and dye. Others can experiment.

Mop and Glo can share a similar substance with another product, but that doesn't automatically mean that they can be substituted for each other. I see Mop and Glo has fragrances and other things added to it. I'd call that contamination for purposes of sealing leather. At the end of the day, is it enough to matter? Well that's for others to figure out.

The question is, if someone gave you a free bucket of Resoline or Eco-Flo Satin Sheen, etc. would you be willing to clean your floor with it? Yes or no? Why don't you give it a try and let us know how it turns out? Buy a bottle and dump it in the middle of the floor and clean it and let us know how it turns out? This argument goes both ways. Make sure to take pictures.

[Bert03241]

53 minutes ago, jasonsmith said:

I didn't "change" my criteria after Mop and Glo was mentioned. I've only used sealer bought from a leather shop and wasn't aware of people using floor cleaner to seal leather. I only "clarified" my criteria after being suggested to use floor cleaner. 

I've not "refused" to believe anyone. People can have positive or negative experiences, it doesn't change the fact that I have no interest in experimenting, especially when we are talking about sealing $40 worth of leather and dye. Others can experiment.

Mop and Glo can share a similar substance with another product, but that doesn't automatically mean that they can be substituted for each other. I see Mop and Glo has fragrances and other things added to it. I'd call that contamination for purposes of sealing leather. At the end of the day, is it enough to matter? Well that's for others to figure out.

The question is, if someone gave you a free bucket of Resoline or Eco-Flo Satin Sheen, etc. would you be willing to clean your floor with it? Yes or no? Why don't you give it a try and let us know how it turns out? Buy a bottle and dump it in the middle of the floor and clean it and let us know how it turns out? This argument goes both ways. Make sure to take pictures.

Dude thru all this you still haven't figured out that mop & Glo is not just a floor cleaner its an acrylic sealer too. And yes if you send me a bucket of Resoline or Eco-Flo Satin Sheen, I will clean and seal my floor with it, and I'm sure it will do a nice job of it, after all it is an acrylic sealer just like Mop & Glo

1 minute ago, Bert03241 said:

 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Bert03241