Is Facebook now Vegan????

[mikesc]

https://xkcd.com/1807/
:)

[Big Sioux Saddlery]

4 hours ago, mikesc said:

Plus, given that ( with only a very small number of exceptions, most of which is illegal, and IMO rightly so .. in order to protect species ) the leather hides and skins that we use are from animals that have been killed for meat.."leather" is a"by-product" of the worldwide meant industries ( multinational and artisanal ) what would they say if the skins were thrown away..

The extremists would rather that nobody eats meat at all, nor uses animals for any personal gain or profit.  If things keep going the direction they're going, I can't even imagine what this world will be like in 25 or 50 years.  

[Rolandranch]

Unfortunately, these wackos are my generation. That's why I like hanging around the older folks rather than my peers.

[Constabulary]

2 hours ago, kgg said:

Just wait and see what happens when the smart home assistants get really refined and become as normal as today's cell phone.

There is no way I would install things like this, neither the freakin Alexa thingy (or similar) nor something that can control my heating or fridge, power supply or what ever via smartphone / internet. This technology makes "us" more vulnerable. There may be some niches in life where it can support you but I was able to survive without this BS until today and I for sure I will crawls around on planet earth for a while w/o having this stuff around me. What happens when the smart-home stuff no longer can be updated - like Win XP or soon Win 7 and the smart-home stuff is not compatible with Win 10 (just to draw a picture ) or the fancy startup Co who installed all the shit disappears from the market and tech support is no longer possible? Buy all that shit new? Njaaa - I don´t need that! On / Off switches are good for me and are fool proof (most of the time).

Yes, I´m on "freakbook" but do not (but barely did) post or "like" anything that has to do with my self on my personal life. I do not "like" other peoples / friends pics or posts or what ever... I even deleted most of my "private" FB posts and comments. I´m just checking in there from time to time to smile about what BS some of my "FB friends" posted there. I don´t even take new friendship requests. ITFDC.

Yes I have an google account but just for posting (mainly) private / not listed videos for certain purposes and delete them when I think they are no longer needed. I do not follow anyone on YT nor do I "like" other peoples Videos there or elsewhere.

I have no "Insta" account and don´t need one. I´m not on Twitter. I have an Pinterest account with a fake name. I´m not using any smartphone messenger (even my sister is moaning) - never did and when ever possible I never will. Not saying the smartphone is not a useful tool but I just don´t like it very much because I do not know what "it" knows about me or what data is "spreads" so it is in a drawer 90% of the time (no - it´s not wrapped in alu foil ). I sometimes even forget it in the drawer or in my car and find it uncharged after a few days. Missed a phone call or two or ten - WTFC - I don´t  Leave a message and when I think it was important I probably will call back - or maybe not.

I´m not wearing an aluminum hat and no copper or magnet jewelry to protect my self from "earth waves" or "outer space radiations" but I just do no like all that freakin way over done social media BS. If people like it - great - go ahead but and spread / share your life or what ever you want but I don´t.

Yes, I left online traces but I´m trying to control it a little bit.

I´m so fxcking 90´s - and I like it    and now you can draw a picture or try to analyze of me and my "social media life" - if you want to.

So I think form a nowadays view I think I´m antisocial and again ITFDC - and hell I like it that way. Makes life a lot more "unagitated".

 

Note to my self:  I´m staring to prattle 

Edited May 3, 2019 by Constabulary

[kgg]

A hard lesson learned by some FB users who are addicted to letting their "friends" know what is going on in their daily lives moment by moment do count downs. Vacation count downs to when, where and for how long they plan to go for. Guess what their homes / apartments get visited and their stuff magically disappears. The crooks were able to schedule an leisurely uninterrupted visit. To harden the lessen their insurance company looks at their page and doesn't cover their loss, who says your digital footprint doesn't count.

kgg

 

[JazzBass]

1 hour ago, Constabulary said:

There is no way I would install things like this, neither the freakin Alexa thingy (or similar) nor something that can control my heating or fridge, power supply or what ever via smartphone / internet. This technology makes "us" more vulnerable.

What's really surprising amongst all of this, is that, for many years, a lot of people have been worried about Orwell's "1984" becoming reality, with "big brother" surveilling every aspect of our lives...BUT INSTEAD, the people have essentially decided to surveil themselves!!! Snap a selfie - "here I am at XYZ" etc etc.

As a result, it is not the government per se that is functioning as the "thought police" today-  it is the private sector.

Back to the point of the original post - the question is, what do we actually want done about private company censorship, shadow banning, outright banning, manipulating what is actually "trending", etc. ?

I am NOT one who calls for government regulation of private companies in general, even in the face of such reprehensible behavior. People voluntarily click "I agree" in the terms of service. HOWEVER ,HOWEVER, HOWEVER -

These companies, through their dishonest policies, have FAR more influence on election results than any Russian plot could ever dream of. The deliberate manipulation of political speech, ads, etc., amounts to billions of equivilent dollars in the political arena. For such deliberate abuse, there absolutely should be prosecutions for violation of election laws - if a TV station refused to run a political ad due to their bias, they would be fined and possibly lose their license. There is no "license" for social media, but unless and until they CLEARLY state that all opinions contrary to theirs will not be permitted on the site, they should be shut down entirely, solely for their deliberate election interference.

In the end, I'm betting that "Atlas Shrugged" will ultimately be a more prescient work than "1984", meaning that a time WILL come when those who produce, will simply refuse to play the game of the leftist collectivists who believe that they have a moral claim upon what you create.

[kiwican]

We have a group up my way called At War For Animals. They are against any kind of use for an animal. From food to working animals. It's all abuse to them. Of course when asked about seeing eye dogs. Or search and rescue dogs. Or PTSD animals. They have no answer. But they are more than willing to protest anything animal related !

[garypl]

2 hours ago, JazzBass said:

What's really surprising amongst all of this, is that, for many years, a lot of people have been worried about Orwell's "1984" becoming reality, with "big brother" surveilling every aspect of our lives...BUT INSTEAD, the people have essentially decided to surveil themselves!!! Snap a selfie - "here I am at XYZ" etc etc.

As a result, it is not the government per se that is functioning as the "thought police" today-  it is the private sector.

Back to the point of the original post - the question is, what do we actually want done about private company censorship, shadow banning, outright banning, manipulating what is actually "trending", etc. ?

I am NOT one who calls for government regulation of private companies in general, even in the face of such reprehensible behavior. People voluntarily click "I agree" in the terms of service. HOWEVER ,HOWEVER, HOWEVER -

These companies, through their dishonest policies, have FAR more influence on election results than any Russian plot could ever dream of. The deliberate manipulation of political speech, ads, etc., amounts to billions of equivilent dollars in the political arena. For such deliberate abuse, there absolutely should be prosecutions for violation of election laws - if a TV station refused to run a political ad due to their bias, they would be fined and possibly lose their license. There is no "license" for social media, but unless and until they CLEARLY state that all opinions contrary to theirs will not be permitted on the site, they should be shut down entirely, solely for their deliberate election interference.

In the end, I'm betting that "Atlas Shrugged" will ultimately be a more prescient work than "1984", meaning that a time WILL come when those who produce, will simply refuse to play the game of the leftist collectivists who believe that they have a moral claim upon what you create.

Atlas Shrugged - one of my favorite books!  I feel we are fast approaching this type of society...

Gary

[Handstitched]

On 5/3/2019 at 10:24 PM, noobleather said:

Never been on it never will.

G'Day , I've been waiting for this topic  to come up.

This is not the platform to air our views about social media, however,  this thread certainly  has opened up a can of worms ( organically sourced  )  

but my 2 cents worth? 

@noobleather  I'm with you . I simply don't like  or use social media period  ( or the person that owns most of it) 

Never have been on it never will be on it .  I've survived this long without it . 

@kiwican Well, I have had people come to my stall having a whinge about  me  using leather etc. even Cane Toad leather for goodness sake ( Cane Toads , that are  the biggest environmental disaster here in Oz) . But then I notice these  people  wearing expensive  *brand name*  clothing and shoes made in a sweat shop over seas .  I could get down to the ' nitty gritty'   and point out to them  some subtle points of logic,  ' how much  environmental damage has  the production of your clothing caused?  "How much are the employees paid?  How many animals were killed  during construction of the factory " how many animals lost their habitat &  how many people were displaced ? "   etc etc.   I could go on!!  

And you're right, animals also help so many people in a positive way . They also keep our borders safe at airports etc. 

@mikesc do vegies feel pain ?    Does an onion cry when I cut it ? ....gawd !! 

Geez , where does it stop ? 

HS 

[TonyV]

On ‎5‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 7:22 AM, bullmoosepaddles said:

I am going to go ahead and say this. For years I have wondered what happens when the next generation starts a war for plant rights? We will all starve. But in their defense it will end the overall problem. 

Plants are people, too!  --  Wheat is murder!