I know somebody on another board, said he's always had good luck with RJF. I talked to Roger last month, and he said he'd send me a sample. I finally got it 2-3 weeks later. I talked to him again the other day, he explained he had been busy, ran out, etc. Giving him another chance, and ordered a pair of single shoulders. I have 3 holsters to do, and just enough to do one. We'll see what happens. As for payments, I don't have PayPal, since they screwed up my account 12 years ago. But, he sent me an invoice, and I was able to go through PayPal with my card.