Let's not get onto this argument guys. I am talking about this specific belt/carry system. Being little to no retention or ability to get a good grip as it's so far into the "holster". Also it looks like it's held together with rapid rivets. I carry Glocks so no safety my wife insists on a safety on her carry weapon. We are never all gonna agree on the one and only carry weapon,position, or caliber. Or even color.lol Saftey no safety loaded chamber empty chamber. This system seems TO ME to have not even the minimums a carry "system" should have.