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I would suggest you reconsider the Consew 206RB-5 rather then the 1206rb-1. The reason I am suggesting this is the 206RB-5 has a safety clutch system so when you jam up the hook/ shuttle you don't cause damage to internal parts. I think most people have at some point jammed a machine up. With a safety clutch you clear the jam, reset the clutch and you are back sewing. One simple jam on a machine without a safety clutch could and probably will cost you more then what you are saving on the initial price. Don't buy a machine based on price alone. Buy the best machine for what you are planning on sewing. There is nothing worst then buying a machine, irregardless of price, that is not capable of doing what you want. Once you buy a machine you are typically stuck with it. I think most of us have been down that road. Those machines are soon replaced usually at a dollar loss. kgg
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Sorry about that my mistake. Both are Bonded Polyester and then it comes do to how those are processed. kgg
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Yes both are Tex 90 but one, the top one is a Bonded Nylon and the other is a Bonded Polyester. The Bonded Nylon is physically thicker, stronger and to make matters more noticeable the Bonded Polyester is softer but handles UV and bleach much better. kgg
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Just adding a sewing machine that can do your items will cut your labor cost. In my example your cost would drop to $15.00 rather then $30 which would give you a fighting chance at attracting sales. kgg
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If you want to level up the playing field with your competition and gain more sales based on price you need equipment to reduce the main cost, Labor. To do that you need to invest in equipment, sewing machine, clicker press, burnisher etc. Lets assume the quality of your work is as good or better then the competitions. Lets assume a couple of other things the labor cost is $20 per hour, the material cost to make a wallet is $5 and the selling price is 2 times the cost to make the wallet. There are two fronts that you have to become competitive in: i) The time it takes to be ready for sewing. If you and your competition have similar wallets that sells well they are probably using a clicker press and produce the pieces for their wallet in less then two minutes where as you are hand cutting the same pieces for a similar wallet and it takes 15 minutes. In an hour they have 30 or more wallet pieces ready to be sewn and you have 4. Their cost per wallet is $0.67 and yours is $5.00. ii) The time it takes to sew. It takes your competition say 15 minutes to sew the wallet and it takes you 60 minutes to hand-stitch one. Your item costs $20 and theirs is $5. Your competition can sew all day long with very little fatigue day in day out. I don't think you would want to try doing that by hand. Summary: Competitions wallet costs: $5.00 in material and $5.67 in labor for a total cost of $10.67. Selling price: 2 x $10.67 or $21.34 Your wallet costs: $5.00 in material and $25.00 in labor for a total cost of $30.00. Your competition could sell the similar wallet for less then what it costs you to make it and still make a profit. Ask yourself would you pay the extra. If two items are of equal quality most customers will chose the one costing less. You have to either have a better item or be at least at a similar price point. There is and will always be a market for items made totally by hand but the general population can't appreciate or if they do they don't want to spent the extra dollars. Also since you are hand-stitching what size of thread do you want to use in the machine? This will also be a factor in selecting a machine. Most upholstery class 1541 flatbeds can handle V138, most class 1341 cylinder beds can handle V207 while the class 441 can handle V415. The totally manual machines like Cowboy Outlaw ($1400) can handle up to V346 and the Tippmann Boss ($999) can handle up to V415. kgg
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Have you visited a industrial sewing machine dealer? Having local support to help you get familiar with a machine maybe of benefit if you have very little experience, they may have a good used machine that would work for you needs and you would be able to test drive probably different machines before you purchase. I would suggest buying a cylinder bed machine with a flatbed table attachment. You can then have the option of doing items not only items best done on flatbed but also items best done and sometimes only can be done on a cylinder bed machine. You may have too either increase your budget or purchase a good used machine. Buy Once, Cry Once. kgg
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How thick is the material? Have you tried using a 110/18 needle? Is the thread a bonded nylon or polyester? kgg
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Singer 111G156 saved from landfill
kgg replied to johnnysingerfan's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
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Since oiling and tapping of the shaft has helped I would also ask LMC if instead of the normal machine oil if something like a good penetrating fluid or Synthetic transmission fluid or even diesel fuel would be another alternative combined with oiling. I don't use regular sewing machine oil in any of my own sewing machines. I find that a mixture of Synthetic transmission fluid and Synthetic oil works much better but I am willing to take the risks associated of going outside normal sewing machine oiling / lubrication recommendations. I often use diesel fuel to free up seize metal components. You did mention that the boxes you received from UPS on the second machine was pretty damaged. Did you save the box as couple of photos of the box may help to determine was the damage caused by mishandling. kgg
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According to Schmetz Needle Size Designations (https://www.schmetzneedles.com/pages/needle-size-designations ) A number # 19 is a 120 metric needle this is good for A number # 20 is a 125 metric needle A number # 21 is a 130 metric needle which is good for V92 (Tkt30) A number # 22 is a 140 metric needle kgg
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The one for your machine that the manufacturer recommended, which was the 134-35 needles so the Groz-Beckert should be the ones. The manual I am referencing is https://www.manualslib.com/manual/461721/Duerkopp-Adler-269.html?page=4#manual kgg
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I don't see an additional video attached. Which parts seem to be causing the problem? I wouldn't make any adjustments just yet until you get the main problem sorted out first with LMC. Please keep us updated. kgg
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They are different needle systems. They are the same diameter (2.0 mm) with different lengths made to fit different machines. The 134-35 length is 38.1mm from the end to the center of the eye and the 134 is 33.9. kgg
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I took another look at your photo's. The side photo where the one with Goldsworthy's tag is visible shows two small holes in the casing just under the "G and the "S". Which indicates a name tag placement. In this case it would be for the "CONSEW". Also from that you can figure it was a Consew 226 which used the Singer 111W155 casing. A reference video would be " Consew 226 Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about this walking foot industrial sewing machine " ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBF0ECECi4c). The Consew 226 or Seiko STW-8B and if I'm not mistake the Juki 563 are based on the Singer 111W155 casing. In your last photo there appears to be lettering and numbering stamped into the presser foot bar which may help determine if they are Singer parts. kgg
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To me it looks like a Singer 111W. First I thought it maybe a Juki but the only machines that come to mind with the serial numbers embedded into the machines bed were the Singers. kgg
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I am going to assume the drive belts to the motor in installed. I would remove the drive belt from the handwheel to the reducer pulley and see if the squealing disappears. If it does then you know the problem lies with the belts, reducer pulley or servo motor. If the squeaking still remains you know it is machine head related. kgg
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Justification for buying a real Durkopp-Adler.
kgg replied to leerling's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
It is a shame that there are no industrial lockstitch sewing machines made in North America that I know of. For the hobbyist and small leather businesses the bottom line is "dollars do matter" which leaves most people (particularly the hobbyist) with two options, purchasing a used machine or a clone. I really like the Juki line of machines but it must be noted that not every Juki is made in Japan so ask before buying. I do have a China made Juki and in my option it is not the quality of the one made in Japan. I looked for three years for a used Juki TSC-441 and could not find one that wasn't bet to death probably because most are used in a commercial environment. This left only a couple options: i) suck it up and cough up the 10k to buy a new one or ii) purchase a clone. I finally broke down and bought a 441 clone. kgg -
My take on your sewing woes: i) The Alder 269-73 can only handle V92 thread with a max 130 needle. So trying to sew thick or tough materiel / leather with the incorrect size needle for the thread is just going to create problems, thread being shredded, skipped stitches, needles breaking, etc. ii) The needles you showed in the photo are for fabric not leather as denoted by the "R" in the bottom left hand corner of the label. A reference for needle points can be found at: https://www.thethreadexchange.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=needle-information#Leather_Points iii) A good reference chart for thread to needle combinations can be found at https://www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html kgg
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Typical problem when the thread is to large for the needle or their are burrs on the thread guides or needle as well as needle inserted incorrectly. What size of thread are you using? How thick is the items you are trying to sew? kgg
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The info that I have seen for the 269 sub class 73 is that it is rated for 130 (#21) needle. Since your machine was converted probably to a 135 x16 system, as the needle that came with the machine is shorter, you will still be limited to roughly a 130 max size needle to provide proper needle to hook clearances. What is it that you want to sew with what size of thread? kgg
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As long as it is of the correct needle system for that machine (with a few exceptions) and the size of the needle is within the limits of what was specified for that model of machine. If the needle that came with the machine is shorter then the new ones chances are that someone converted the machine to 135 X 16 needle system. kgg
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Yes that is the needle system of those Gross-Beckert needles. If you still have the needle the machine came with. Is that needle longer, same or shorter then the new needles? kgg
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Just be honest with yourself and how it will fit into your needs / wants. The machine maybe in excellent working condition but not fit your needs so the better decision would be to walk away. Check the machine for: i) thread grooves wore into the thread guides to help determine the amount of use the machine has had ii) amount of thread lint buildup on tension discs and in the shuttle race to help determine the amount of care or lack of. iii) any side movement of the needle bar and any needle strikes on the needle plate iv) abnormal sounds (banging / clunking / scraping) when machine is sewing at both slow speed and the machines max rated speed. v) the machine reverses into the same holes that were made during normal forward sewing vi) take a tape measure and measure the distance from the needle to the closest part of the body to determine if that throat space is going to be enough for sewing your items kgg
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The needle system is only one part of the equation the other part is the size of the needle and the machines manufacturer determined the max size of needle for that machines needle system for that machine. i) Depending on age of your machine and sub class you are also limited to a 130 (#21) needle which is good for V92 ( 30 ) thread. The needle you have shown is a larger 140 (#22) needle. Check your manual to see what is the max size of needle will fit your machine. ii) Your machine was converted at some point to a 135 needle system. On the top line at the right where it says "Nm 140/22" tells what size of needle. The 140 is the metric size and 22 is the US (Singer ) size of the needle. The larger the size number the stronger the needle is, has a larger eye to allow for larger threads. kgg
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Justification for buying a real Durkopp-Adler.
kgg replied to leerling's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
The cost on this side of the pond would run for an Durkopp-Adler 969 north of $9000 USD while a machine like the Cowboy CB4500 would be around $3000 USD. Also Durkopp-Adler is owned by a Chinese company, ShangGong Group who also own PFAFF. So the justification for not buying a Dürkopp Adler as I would see it: i) There are a lot of dollars to be saved. ii) Availability of parts which are much cheaper. iii) Availability of accessories which are also much cheaper. kgg