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Good call to stay away from the Heavy Duty. I'll let others chime in on the 29. Maybe you could mention what size thread you'd use and the max thickness you might want to sew. That'll have an impact.

Here's a link to a parts list: https://consew.com/Files/112347/PartsBooks/2457R-1A.pdf It shows optional cams for funky stitches, so if doubt it's heavy enough for the kind of leather we sew around these parts.

@dikman, I hear you. On my 151 and 153, they'll punch through whatever fits under the presser foot with a half horse servo and a speed reducer. Without the reducer it starts to get dicey at about 10 ounces of veg tan. She's got the servo,so we'll know pretty quick.

That looks like a nice machine. And it has REVERSE! I have the similar Singer 111W153 and 111W151 but neither has reverse. Looking back through this thread I don't see that anyone mentioned a speed reducer to go with that servo. You should read up on them in case you still find it a bit fast. Maybe with hand bags there won't be any need to dead slow sewing. Have fun!

Saddle stitching, 2 needles, like most people. I have a speedy stitcher and it can make a decent stitch, too (it's a lock stitch, by the way). I prepunch my holes for saddle stitch and have not tried punching on the fly with an awl. With the caveat that I'm only at this a couple of years, I just find stitching ponys fussy and inconvenient. Clamp the pony to the bench and the work into the pony and half the time, one of those things is going to move. Then you only get so many stitches before you have to shift the work. Projects like hats and holsters don't fit in them very well. I'm sure they do for somebody, but not for me. Knife sheaths, wallets, small stuff fits ok, but still fiddly. I find it easier to hold whatever I'm working on in my hands either on a workbench or just in my lap. Just my rookie outlook on stitching ponys. That said, a stitching pony is probably a good investment for most people who intend to saddle stitch. On the subject of not overbuying, I'd refer you to a couple of recent threads by an experienced crafter, making nice pieces using a small set of beginner tools. There are so many tools and methods out there, it's just hard to know what to buy when you first start out. https://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/125186-leather-projects-using-50-dollars-of-amazon-tools/ https://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/122892-back-at-tooling/ Practice - it's free except for the leather. Maybe grab a bag of scraps and practice sewing. There's a "Getting Started" forum. It might be worth poking around over there and maybe ask for advice on a beginner tool set.

@Rhoda - I split you out into a new topic. I assume you were inquiring about a Durokop Adler 268, since that's the title of the thread you tagged into. Please let us know if that's not correct. Also, I bet the sewing machine experts are going to want pictures, location and other info. Pictures are easily added via the "Add Files" button. 1.4 megs max size. If too large, reducing them to 800 pixels in the longest dimension will get the job done.

@Cumberland Highpower I can get to the site but it has a Cloudflare challenge. Not sure what you're seeing but all 4 of those downloads are 404. The poster hasn't been here in 4 years. Maybe we should consider deleting the post.

Welcome aboard! Both machines should be fun. Pretty satisfying, un-seizing those great old Singers and making them run again. Most of the time they don't take much. Good luck with it and feel free to share your work.

Can you sew your small items without a stitching pony? I don't care for them.

Yeah, I worried about 2/3 as well but I've done 2 now, including the one in the profile pic and they're plenty stiff after wetting and drying. The problem I've had with that one is the brim kind of potato chipping. It needs a binding. But, that one I cut from the belly. You're going to get a lot of compliments on that hat when you wear it around town.

All part of the service. Appreciate you updating the price.

So close, we just need a price. Also, slipped you to the Machinery/Sewing category. That machine is going to make someone happy.

Nice job. Have you used 5 or 6 ounce leather before for a hat? I've used both 2/3 and 5/6 and, for me, 5/6 is just too heavy. That's definitely my style of hat. Did you do anything inside? Sweat band, liner?

@LoriC - I moved you over to the Leather Sewing Machine area. I'd be surprised if someone here can't get you going.

If it's that super critical, I'd want it on a chest rig in some kind of spring retention holster. It looks like a person could grab it with their index finger and pull it loose. Maybe up on my left shoulder to grab with my right hand. The drawback would be an accidental discharge would be pretty bad that close to someone's face. It took me a while to figure out you meant running as in exercise, not fleeing from a bear and trying to spray over your shoulder.

Wow. If it's complete and in good condition, you stole it! Nice score.

I think your edit window closed. I added it to your post. Thanks.

They look like fun machines. We require shipping info for each ad. Please note your shipping/delivery situation and who pays. Thanks.

Welcome to the forum. You'll need to find a way to post in English, please. 포럼에 오신 것을 환영합니다. 영어로 글을 쓸 수 있는 방법을 찾아주세요.

Leathermachineco.com is a forum sponsor and Cobra dealer. While I haven't done business with them personally, they enjoy an excellent reputation. If you look through recent threads, this exact question was recently asked and the user went with Leather Machine Co over Tandy. If you have a local Tandy, you might save the shipping.

So, I'm wondering why your profile says you're in Virginia but you're posting from Pakistan?

@BossHogg, I moved this one over to Wanted in the Marketplace.

@drida I merged your 2 threads. This seems to be the right forum.

The class 4 would be more comparable to the cowboy 4500, just so your comparing apples to apples. I'd point out that having the longer cylinder arm would future proof you, whereas the shorter one can't be stretched. Forum sponsors are always a good bet. Boss lady is pretty choosy about who she works with.

Interesting. But then I lose "Browse", "Activity" and the search bar from the top. It's all a compromise.