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Hi Constabulary, Yes of course they where South Vietnamese, that was what I meant to say. Captured by the North Vietnamese and the Russians, I guess the GDR has "good" prisons About a year or so before the wall fell, I was sent to Verningerode at Veb Electromotorwerke to load motors. (Norway used them in our trains and trams) We alway had to have a customs officer present when loading/unloading to open the sealed trailer. We had to come at, say 0700 hour sharp to load, if one minute past you had to wait until next day and then the visa (Kraftfahrer visa I think they called it) had expired. They you would be arrested and accused to be a spy but they let us go after some hours and lots of interviews and paper work. We only got 24 hour visas so if something happened, and it aways does. So I was accused as a spy several times. Back on track. I came that morning to load there was no more electro motors, I asked the customs/police officer why. He told me that all the Vietnamese POW had been issued amnesty and released. And something had changed, there was lots of aisian people selling stuff in the streets and colors everywhere. It came as a shock to me that these POW had hand wired all these big motors, nobody knew. I do not think Norway would allowed the buy of these train parts if they knew, I don't thick they still know anything about it. That city, Verningerode was about untouched by the 2WW and had old beutiful wooden buildings. Have not been there since that time, it was very different from the other gray east German cities. I was also many times in Leipzig and that factory building is just what I remember it looked like, but no clear skies; just fog of coal all over. (never as clear as on your pic) Tor

Hi and thanks, you all did a great job on this machine. Gray is a good color for it Constabulary, and gray is the color that hit you when you passed the border in to the old DDR. I worked as a truck driver in the 1980´ties and drove a lot on DDR, loaded electro motors from Veb Electromotorwerke (who was made by North Vietnamese prisoners of war in DDR captivity, I did not know at that time) and clothes for Norwegian fashion stores. I visited many factories and was always invited to "dinner" ,a spoon of mashed potatoes, a piece of meat size of a dime and some brown salat. The table fork and knife was made of a soft metal that bended on the meat. The workers did not have food but made machinery of the best quality and steel. They always wanted to prove they where Germans, and did so by putting there pride in making good products. I never forget the fog of coal and smell of two stroke gasolin, the tough, long border controls when they accused me of being a spy Anyway, my point was that they made the world best electro motors and most of the other (industrial) stuff they made was top notch even without food.

I think Samco clicking presses was British company, I do not know if it's the same company as the big Canadian Samco company of today. Perhaps the label tells us something more? "Samco Strong Ltd" perhaps. I don't know unless I see it. USM stands for United Shoe Machinery. They are also a Canadian company that make and refurbish old leather related machinery. I have a Fortuna band knife splitting machine that is branded by USM, refurbished by them. The best thing you can do is posting a picture of the machine and label (name/number plate) I know that Samco is good machines and 25 ton should be good for cutting saddle parts. Tor

Its the ones that JerseyFirefighter posted about, copper rivets and burrs. I doubt that machine in your picture takes the copper rivets and burrs. That's a very complicated way to set them. Haven't seen any machine that does them yet.

That's what I call a handwheel, I think it is a Adler cl. 20. Based on the fixing of the leaf spring on top of the head, on the Singer 7 the base of the spring is casted in the head. Hard to see clearly on these pictures. Tor

I saw a nice trippel feed (upholstery class sewing machine) Duerkopp Adler 767 with a Efka DC 1600 (NPS) system motor for sale to around 400 USD (produced after 1994). It was missing a few parts as a needle plate, bobbin cover and bobbin cover plate. Those parts are available after marked (apart from the last) and not to expensive. Anyway, such machine would bring in about 3000 USD and more here in europe. It's the top of the line DA machine before the new 867 came on the marked. I've registered that these machine do not get much more money in the USA than the 267-373 machine. Who are a very good machine indeed (I got one myself) but only half the price of a 767 high speed Xlarge hook tripple feed upholstery machine. With alternating foot hight, easy adjusted on the top wheel, long stitch lenght and many other avantages. Pneumatic foot lift, back tack and you name it. Here is a change to make some $ for someone, I live to far away I'm afraid. Are these the final prices of this website or auction prices. About Herman Swabe clickers, I guess these must be very durable good machines and I see they get very good prices on old looking machines. Perhaps they aren't old, only look the way they always have. There was some very cheap pneumatic presses there too, some where give away. They can easely be used as button setters, do cutting jobs or embossing tasks. Just hook on some air. Interesting web site indeed. Tor

Yes Singer made a lot of different models as well. You really see how big these are on that table. The gold bling was more common on older machines and on domestics. These was all true industrials and seen use in WW2 as a repairing machine for canvas/tent etc. It even got a medal for its contributions along with two other Singer machines, if I'm not wrong.

The Adler is a needle feed and would work much better for you use (CowboyBob sell roller foot that fit both the Adler and Singer) The singer is bottom feed and will mark up that nice Tærnsjø leather. You must make sure the Adler is a 105-64 (with needle feed), Bob above also sells a harness foot that fit the Adler machine. When it comes to medium duty machines like the Pfaff, you can find many bargains in Scandinavia. Nevertheless, cylinder beds are more expensive. The Pfaff 335 is a H2 and is very light in thread size. Has to be at least a H3, but still very small bobbin. The Adler is expensive because of the feed type, perhaps you can get it a bit down. They are not that commonly for sale in Scandinavia like the medium classes are. Have a look at Sieck.de Germany for comparison of prices (dealer prices are higher of course) Heavy stitcher are expensive if they have a usable feed type. Tor

I would suggest you buy a led lamp instead and install separately from the motor, these motor lamps can have some bad mood somethimes. Yes those motors are old now. Still useable motors indeed, electronic clutch motor with position, electronic clutch electronic brake and expansions possibilities.

Sure you have pushed the new needle all the way up- and the needle was brand new? Ask CowboyBob (Toledo industrial Sewing machine), he has a lot of Singer parts and know these machines. Are you sure that part broke just now. Tor

Of course I'll love Singer fans, it's always possible they will not buy that nice Adler bargain and leave it for me

VanRhodes, Yes they looks to be a bit longer. And there are many different types of front plates with foot lifter http://sew24.blogspot.no/p/downloads.html Yetibelle, it a big machine(s), no more room for machines I have no use. Yes those Adlers was saveable, they had done service in Norways biggest (only perhaps) sports tent producer. Espessially the highlift machines are valuable, if you are going to buy a SL produced Adler 120-30 you have to pay a crazy price for it.

No offense, I understand it. It's good to alway find parts and documentation for what you working on. That's not always that easy with Adler, not a problem but Singer are better there. I'll guess I've had some bad luck with my Singers. I think the different is the precision the Adler are made, like comparing it to a Swiss watch with super nice steel. The Singer is strong heavy duty but a bit more ruff. The Advantage with Singer are that there was so many of them.

Very nice, here it's pretty common with hight adjustment machine tables and position attachments. But I never seen that particular solution before. A German company https://www.rk-rose-krieger.com/deutsch/produkte/linear-technik/ sells all the linear parts you need for a built like this.

A brand new (never used) Adler 120-8 for sale in Norway, high lift and alternating pressers.

Here is a couple of highlift Adler 20-8 (or 8A, not sure) I could get for free some four year ago. The have a monster lift of 40 mm and used as garden ornaments. To bad really, these are expensive machines for the ones who need them.

I agree it's an Adler 20-20, the last picture gave some more details. The highlift machines has in addition to spacers between the head and the base a extra gear wheel beside the hand wheel (a gear reducer) and the one with 40 mm lift a built up top bearing for the presser foot bar (top front). They are easily reconized. I do not understand the talk about the Singer kl 7. This is a original Adler machine, the Singer 7 is a black machine. The Singer 7-31 has a different casting in the head too, the base for the leaf spring fixture and the base for the thread spool is casted on the head. Singer 7-31 has a different hand wheel too. If it has any Singer parts they are often stamped "Simanco" but that does not make it a Singer machine. The only way to achieve that is to change the entire head, I do not understand why you would want too, you should be happy it's an Adler. Singer machines are popular in USA, the UK and by our member Constabulary, the rest of the world will choose the Adler machines ( that's my opinion anyway ) Most of the mainland European used machine dealer don't want the Singer machines (unless they are very special and do not have counterparts). I cannot speak for the hole world of course, this is something I use to joke about...and my own opinion. Tor

Kwokhing.com has binders that fit both cylinder and flatbeds. I bought a couple for my Pfaff 345 cylinder bed machine that works great (90 degree mounting) heavy leather binders that also fit my 441 machine I necessary. Very happy with these binders, can post a pic of my setup later. (I'm not selling anything) Tor

Now I see I really should have bought the zipper guide KG-NR with regulating guide, that's what I need right now changing zippers in a boat top. I think that's new, I did not see that one when I bought mine. However, I can easily modify mine and use the guide from the welting attachment illustrated in KG767T. That welting attachment was available separately when I bought it (with out the suspending guide). Tor

Singer class 7 and Adler 20 are about the same machine with many interchangeable part. Is there any Simanco parts on it that gives you that idea. I know they uses the same hook. Tor

When you are past the 50 ties like me you appreciate white to get more light. But original is always the best choice, looking beutiful. About the possible subclass: It's a bit difficult to see by the picture, but it looks like it has alternating pressers. If that's the case it might also have 16 mm foot lift and one needle, needle system 794. That's the spec of an Adler 20-19. The class 20-8 and 20-8a both have a spring loaded (jump foot) and very high foot lift; 30 and 40 mm. These are also easily recognized by a gear speed reduser on the handwheel. The needle system on these are the1000 u and they are both one needles. The class 20-200 o has upper transport and two needles, system 794. The rest of the machines has bottom feed only (part from one with puller feed and a couple with special attachments for sewing buffing wheels). But of course there are always special versions and custom builts. But these are the serial produced machines for the export marked who is recorded. So if it fits the first "profile" with two pressers that alternates, it's most likely a Kochs Adler 20-19. The class 20 was replaces by the newer class 120 in 1975. Who was made until 1993. The Adler 120-30 is still made today on license by SL sewing machines Germany and cost a small fortune. Tor

Artisan model will typically be made in China or Taiwan. In Scandinavia most used older clicking machines are German or Italian made. Common European brand are Sandt, Atom, Schön and Moenus. You will also Find Canadian and US made ones. Chinese machines are of newer model but could very well have broken electronics, not their strongest knowledge good luck

Most common models will have the safety factors of two triggers that has to be pressed simultaneously, hight adjustment of the hammer (head) and time of the stroke. Perhaps also something for the oil pressure/level and temperature, not very complicated electronics. If you have the brand and model number you can search for a manual/ part list (pdf) for it.

They aren't all constructed the same, it depend of brand and year. Some have manual hight and stroke adjustment, some electronic. Mine is old and all manual. What brand is it. Guess that the time of the stroke is adjustable on some models too and can be used for embossing/wet forming. I use a simple old cast iron book press for embossing, when time is a factor more than the pressure. Tor