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Ok, a modern type of machine (FAV also made those regular Fortuna types with arm). As I said the before, the picture/angle do not reveal much. But what's the brand?

Global was the first Chinese clone by brand in Europe. It's a good Chinese brand who have been used by big European sewing machine manufacturers for part making and so on. Sold by Imca BV in Netherlands, their sewing machines are as good as any other big Chinese brands or maby better. I do not know anybody that owns their skiving machine, but I reckon it is of the same quality as the sewing machines. 1000 euro has to be a new price ? I do not know where you are based, If it's Europe you can check Sieck.de for similar machines. I think their own brand "Sieck" is manufactured by Hightex (Cowboy). Similar one motor bottom feed runs at 950 Euro, with constant speed bell knife and servo on feed roller (much easier machine to learn and use) twice that much. A bottom feed machine like the Global SK 111 will work fine for your task, but will need some training to master. Good luck, Tor

Hi, yes and I wish there was one where I'm based too (Oslo, Norway). But I'm used to buy most of my parts/tools abroad. The shipping for a foot like that is not expensive. Just ask Dan Naegle in CR to send you a list/leaflet of every presser fot/ assesories he has for these machines. He is a very nice man to deal with. And other thing you can do is to search the Ebay for a foot like that. There are Chinese presser to be found on there sometimes and most of the times they give you free shipping all over the world. The Chinese still have some kind of trade advantage/ very cheap shipping posebilities. Most of the time I buy something from them (small things) they give me free shipping. Takes a bit longer, a couple of weeks. But your not far away from them. My guess is that the foot Darren has can't be more expensive than 50 USD, probably 30. Perhaps that's why it's difficult to get the price Send him and PM or an email. Here is some of my pressers. This roller presser is best suited for splitting operations, double skiving. That little adjustable one is very useful for firm leather short skives. Tor

It's always important to have a sharp bell knife, after grinding remove any inside burr with the deburring tool. Grind outside edge and use the de burring tool inside simultaneously and stop at the same time, the there will be no burr at any side of the edge. I use the metal roller wheel for thick leather and wegtan. The stone wheel for upholstery type of leather, delicate thin leather. Move the bell knife as far to the left as possible so the edge will be at the top center of the feed wheel, the roller should be adjusted to follow the radius of the bell knife. I use paper strips to adjust it, this way I can have the exact same distance to the bell knife on both sides of the roller. Then the angel of the skive is set with the presser foot alone. My machine is an Italian Alpha SM, with a constant speed bell knife and an extra little servo motor for the feed roller. On this machine you can feed the material with the feed roller motor. When you have a machine with one motor that control both the roller and bell knife speed is important to use the method that Electrathon describes. The feed roller spring pressure is set differently for different types of leather, more pressure for firmer leather (and wegtan) than for upholstery types. Ones you have setup your machine to the so called zero position (described above) you should only need to adjust the presser foot hight for different thicknesses. If you use one millimeter clearance between the knives and feed roller or two, just measure up some paper strips at the wanted thickness. Place them between the knife and the feed roller and adjust the feed roller until you have the same drag on the paper strips all over the radius of the feed wheel (hold the paper with one hand and adjust the feed wheel with the other) I find this method very usefull, it may save you a lot of leather tests this way. Good luck, Tor

Campbell Randall sell presser and roller presser for these types of skiving machines, he has many different types. They fit mostly every machine and are bought for the feed roller witdh. Some fit 50 mm roller and other 30 mm roller width...and so on, they are not very expensive. Tor

Unless you have the missing parts is useless. Nice cabinet thought. You are missing key components and its looking old, it can be very difficult to find parts for it. Unless it's a Fortuna, then you can have it rebuilt by the Fortuna company. But I'm afraid you can buy a Chinese skiving machine for less than this key parts will cost you. If you have all the parts (in working order) then it's not rocket science to get it working again. What brand is it ? The picture is not the best quality. Try to find the name and model number on it. Tor

It's cast iron of course, crap! If not is very bad heat threatment. Should not be that coarse grits on proper heat treated tool steel.

By the way, not a very good way to attach a speed reducer; you cannot tension the machines V belt this way. Tor

I use such frequency controllers (drives) all the time, sine I do not have 3 phase current in my workshop. Here (Norway) its 220v on single and 380v on 3 phase but the principals are the same. I use the drives on solutions when I need to control the speed on the motor (in addition to convert the current). On my clicking machine I rewired the motor to have it running on single Ph. I used two big 70 micro Farad capacitors not to loose any staring up torque, it is as strong now as it was before running on 3 Ph. You can loose a little torque when you use these drives and on some frequencies they tend to make bad sounds. That's no problem when you can adjust the speed, just change the speed/Hertz and the sound dissappear. On a clicking machine you have to run on maximum speed/Hertz all the time, you just have to hope it will not sound bad on that frequency. Here is an other AC motor (1,2 Kw 3 Ph) I had wired for the single Ph current. This is a air compressor motor but of similar size as the clicking machine, wired exactly the same way. Sorry for the bad picture quality, I can take new pictures if you are interested. Tor

Nice find

I wonder if our tool expert Bruce Johnson have seen this maker stamp before Bump

You better move this add to the marketplace forum, this is a discussion forum only, thanks

Impressing work Tom, you have a future as a tool maker. Looks like your machine uses a very different angle on the blade and a more stable blade support. Are you able to skive upholstery type of leather on your machine or only firm leather.

I looked true is FB site and saw four machines in his workshop. a Pearson harness stitcher (or simmilar), a Adler 205-64, a Tipperman Boss and a old Singer 29K. No picts of the Pfaff, I look forwards to see that machine. Tor

You can see how the Pfaff cl. 27 and 28 looks like in Sieck.de web site. Go too category "arm machines" (English language), to compare to the one you are talking about.

I would check out Imca BV in Harleem (Nederland) Globalsew.com. (my links do not work, you got to type them in your self) They sell Global who was one of the earliest clones in Europe, they have made machines/parts for Duerkopp Adler. They also sell Hohsing motors (who are one of the best pro sewing motors on the marked today. They have a very good little needle position motor for a reasonable price "G 60", this motor works very well). They also sell used machines. Sieck.de is already mention above. But do not forget Frank Brunnet GmbH "www.frank-brunnet.com"Germany, he sell several types of clones. I have a Danish friend who bought a clone from him he is very satisfied with, same class you are looking for. He has Global and perhaps Hightex too, and his a nice man to deal with who knows his trade well; good support. Do consider customer service/support as the most important factor when buying a Chinese clone machine. The price comes second, good luck. Tor

What subclass are you Adler 5. If been sewing 16 mm thick leather with my old 5-27, it has a spring loaded jump foot and bottom feed. It preform pretty good on leather (it's built for leather work). You do not need that much foot pressure with this jumpfoot, it follows the material backwards and takes the pressure off the feed dog. (less marks underneath the leather compared to a regular bottom feed system). I also have a complete original saddlers attachment pack for it, with presser feets and needle plates etc.. It's a very good machine, I keep it as a backup machine it's still in new condition. I also like the old 328 needle system, it produce much less heat compared the longer 794. The needle on my 441 can be hot enough to melt thread sometimes, it need to use lubricant to cool it down on long runs.

Perhaps "SV" stood for "Stolen Version" since they later became regular subclasses Can't see anything SPECIAL with them.

Pfaff cl. 27 and 28 drop feed cylinder bed with barrel shuttle. Looks to be something a bit lighter than the Adler cl. 5 (Singer 45K). I do not know what needle system they use, might have been similar to the Adler cl 5 (328) Or perhaps something in the same range of the Singer cl 17. They look a bit like the last, but has described to have a barrel shuttle. The Singer have a shuttle, but not a barrel shuttle. It if those needles fit your Adler cl. 5, they cannot be similar to the 794 system the 441 use. They are way to long for a class 5 machine.

Hi Simon, yes the "Rossler" have the horse symbol too. But I seen it on French tools too, If I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure anymore, when you forget to write such information down its forgotten after time. The second one is German I think, it's a couple of German tool companies with that name. It do not look that old to me, looks like something made in the 1960 and later. Perhaps not that good looking, but looks like a very good tool to me.

Thank you very much Nox, Yes the knifes are still a mystery. I still have a feeling they might be German made, just a guess based on the handle material and ferulle. Thank you so much for the links/catalogs. It's a very interesting site about round knifes, I do have several of those knifes (around 25, but not all are different) Gomph tools are very collectible, I just lost two nice round knifes during shipping from USA. I favor a good HF Osb. or a W. Rose over a Gomph. First time I've seen his catalog, very interesting indeed. When I have a French tool expert here, I have a few other French brands I want you to take a look at (I might have more, but these will do for now). If you do not mind ? There where two nice circle/washer cutters in that same tool lot as the 2 mystery knifes. One has a beautiful stag handle and a horse brand (did not have the time to clean it up yet), I belive it's a "PORTRAIT". It's in very nice condition, blade is not even Re sharpened. (pic 1 & 2). Next is a double washer cutter 30 cm of brand "Prisma", it might be German and not very old. (pic 2 & 3). Next is a "serpette" I bought from France some years ago. It's marked "S:N:C:F and a laying B" (pic 4 & 5) It's a typical Blanchard pattern knife and has very good steel for leather( gets very sharp). One last tool a small 20 mm. English strap end punch from "Dumay a Paris" (pic 6 & 5) Also bought in France. I know this was a lot to ask about at once, not every day we have an French tool expert on the forum. By the way, it's first time I've seen anything from "Ullathorne & Cie". I do have an old large round knife from them, I'm afraid it's in to bad shape to be saved (or need to much work). There was also an Ullathorne in the UK, do you know if it's the same one or family? I love old French"sellerie" tools, I use and collect them. If you have any info about these tools Pls let me know. Thank you very much for your help and insight Madame, email sent

You're welcome Steve

I got all different strap cutter tools, but nothing beats a good modern Blanchard plough (with a old type knife attached). Knife set up with the bevel on the inside only, it works as a rudder and compress the leather against the guide.

Takk(thanks) Simon, not a bad suggestion, it's more like it. "Phoenix raising from the flames" that's Greek mythologi isn't it. A quick Google places the phoenix in Egyptian, Persian, Greek, Oriental Judaism and Christianity. Phoenix surrounded by flames (but not hurt by them), several cities in USA and Europe uses this symbol in their municipal emblem to denote the one time destruction and consequent rebuilding of the city. It's a very commonly used symbol, but now I have more to search for. It's a German coats of arm, along with several other countries, the search is on . Thanks Tor

There always some old iron around you might be lucky if the add can be seen by enough people, "bump" it to keep it alive frequently. It's like someone asked me to sell the original saddlers attachment pack for my old Adler 5-27 (who's basically the same machine as a 45 K cyl.bed with jumpfoot) without buying the machine. I could not sell one without the other. That said, you can't get anything without trying; and there's a lot more Singer machines out there than Adlers. Good luck Tor