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Hi Sheila I think that might be the case. The halter rings can be broken, but doing it this way, the leather will sort of absorb the pull and just distribute it evenly to the rest of the halter (at least that is my theory). Also being 1.25" wide, and doubled everywhere there is a serious amount of leather to distribute any pulling force. I have never seen a halter like it either. That's what made me curious and wanting to make a copy of it. The design might be old, but the original halters are maybe 30 years old. the owner told me that he had them made at a saddle maker who had a shop around 50 miles away (the most local one at that time) I don't know if that saddlemaker made up the design himself or if he had some very old models that he copied. As far as I could understand, the neck strap / poll strap sits more like a regular neck strap. I am not sure if you use that on your side of the Atlantic, but some people use it over here. It is basically just a belt that goes around the neck of the horse, and that's it. I think the idea behind those are that they can't be pulled off, like some horses manage to do with their halters. And then on this halter the idea should be that it is indestructible and impossible to tear off in case the stallion gets angry while being loaded or doing its thing on either a phantom or on a mare. They never seem to use that model as a regular everyday halter. But maybe they do use them when there is a stallion show off, they can be fairly aggressive when there are other stallions nearby I guess. The halter that Secretariat wears looks just like a normal halter to me. I have made 4 halters following the excellent plans and instructions given by TomE on this site. They are either made as triple stitched halters or double stitched. They are very sturdy yet elegant. But I guess that they can be broken, and if you have a spirited 1400 Lbs stallion - that might result in an accident if it manages to break one and takes off :-) I'll try to take a picture when I get home, with the halter mounted on a horse.

Hi Tom, At first when Ib (the owner) told me about it, I couldn't envision what he meant. He kept saying that the leather wrapped itself around itself. I was so puzzled that one day I drove out the Katrinelund and asked if I could see it. I borrowed one of the halters with me home to be able to make an exact copy of it. He told me that they bought a couple of them from an old saddle maker who lives about 50 miles from the station. I don't know if he designed them or used an old design. I trust that it is a wise decision to not do any actual breeding on a phantom anymore, From what I hear there is a high risk of bruises and broken toes etc. Katrinelund sometimes have other peoples stallions in the stable, and they also buy new ones, so I guess that they can't always be sure on that their horses are well behaved :-) Gustav has started working for a rider called Konstantin Künnemann, who has got something called KK Stables. At the moment they have got Zir Oculus in the stable to train a bit. That is one of the jumping stallions from Katrinelund. It seems like a nice horse, but I can envision that when it gets a bit "heated" up, there is a bunch of power in there. mail order husbands - thats a fine expression :-) Brgds Jonas

Thanks, it is a bit of a working piece, so not particularly elegant, Though I think it helps a bit with the contrasting colour with the white thread.

It seems kind of overbuilt (very close to being chunky), I did a 1:1 copy of the original halter, same lengths of straps etc. I think my leather is a smidge thicker than the original, but maybe an ounce or two, so nothing major. I personally like the regular style of halter better, but I know that they can be broken by an aggressive horse, this one I doubt will break :-) As I could understand of the owner of the stallion station, the halter sits more like a neck strap and less like a halter (if that makes any sense?). So it should sit further from the ears than a regular halter as far as I have understood, but I can see your concern. The noseband seems very large to me, I can't remember the circumference, but I think it was around 32", so it will sit rather high up on the head. On the original model, the side straps had deformed quite a bit so that there was more of an angle between the noseband and the neck strap - which would make it sit even more like a regular neck strap instead of a halter. I think those halters are only used when a stallion needs to mount the phantom or if an aggressive stallion is to be transported in a truck or a trailer. So it is not used as an everyday general use halter. (at least that was my impression) I can see the need for something very secure if a spirited stallion needs to be taken to the phantom. they can be pretty rough. It actually never occurred to me to take a picture of it mounted on my wife's gelding. I'll try to do that when I get home in about a months time. Then I can see how it really sits on a horse. Brgds Jonas

Previous time I was home from the sea, I talked to the owner of the local stallion station, and he mentioned that he once had some special stallion halters made. I borrowed on to see how it was constructed, and last time on the ship I fabricated some special D-rings that was needed for that type of halter. This time at home I made a copy of the halter, just to try it, and also so that I could return the borrowed one. Plus it gave me a rough idea of how much work was involved in the making. I had suspected that it would be faster to make, but in the end I think I used around 6-7 hours. Not including the time used to fabricate the massive D-rings. The halter is very beefy and I believe it when they say that it can hold up to an enthusiastic stallion. The main straps are all 30 mm (1.25"). The side straps are 1", and those are the only straps that aren't doubled. It looks a lot like a regular halter save for the double thickness and the missing regular type of hardware. The noseband and the neck strap are connected with the side straps but instead of doing it via hardware the straps go through elongated holes in the leather of the noseband and the neck strap. I made my halter out of black Hechte leather. There is almost 18' of leather involved, and it is all made out of a heavy thickness, I used 4 mm, and I have no idea how much that is in ounces. The D-ring is made out of 8 mm stainless steel (5/16") it is made for a 30 mm strap in the 3 sides of the D. I couldn't find any D-rings of that size, and on the original one that I borrowed, I could see that it was homemade too. I sewed as much as I could on the old Singer, but there was still some hand sewing included. The biggest ups I made was during some of the hand sewing, where I accidentally tilted the diamond awl the wrong way resulting in a ugly wavy stitching. Good thing is that it is low on the halter where few people will see it. The bad thing is that I know it is there.. I know I didn't concentrate, and I have no one to blame but myself. I hope that the stallion station will need an extra halter of this type at some point, since it is an interesting project to make. The completed halter. Note the less than impressive stitching in the lower part of the noseband (where it joins the D-ring) Side strap connects through the leather of the nose band. And it connects through the leather of the neck strap as well (some issues with the hand stitching on the neck strap as well) "Continuous" loop for adjusting the length of the side strap. The fixed side of the side straps are attached to the neck strap. 4 ply chin strip will most likely hold up to whatever being thrown at it. Beefy D-ring and spectacular hand sewing.. How the nose band wraps around the D-ring. Buckle of the neck strap. Mounted the same way as on the original with a 6" piece of strap to double the thickness for strength.

@Younes I tried to google a bit. Sieck (a major sales company for used leather machinery) has a similar machine for sale. I am pretty sure that they have their own repair department. You could try to write them and ask if they had a wiring diagram. http://www.sieck.de/en/machines/new-arrivals/?produkt=9456&cookie=okay

@Younes Hi If the machine is hydraulic, I don't think that the wiring is overly complicated. If you can find a local electrician who specializes in automation he should be able to troubleshoot in a short time. Can you explain what the machine does and doesn't? I mean do does the hydraulic pump start when you press start, or is all just dead? My best guess without knowing the machine would be that you are required to push 2 places in order for the press to work (in order to keep hands away from the machine, if one of those switches or pushbuttons are damaged, you can press but the machine won't see the signal and won't move. If you can locate those push buttons, you can try to measure them yourself if you have a multimeter (around 100 SEK in Biltema) 1) Unplug the machine while you work on it. 2) Put the selector on the multimeter on OHM (resistance) 3) look on the back of the pushbutton, you might have to unscrew it from the machine to get access to the back. 4) measure the resistance when you activate the push button. If the button is healthy, it should have a resistance close to 0 Ohm. if not, the pushbutton is bad. 5) if there is an emergency stop on the machine, the measurement is the opposite. When the emergency stop is not operated you should be able to measure approximately 0 Ohm over the terminals. Another thing that could potentially be wrong is the solenoids on the hydraulic valves. You can measure the resistance and check that there is some resistance in them. Probably around 25-50 Ohm If there is a very large number, the winding in the solenoids are burnt and you will need a new solenoid. I hope this helped a bit. Good luck with the machine. Brgds Jonas

Agreed, actually the German text is a bit vague. He describes that the pot should be heated to red hot, but that would cause the leather to burn, unless you had put a tight fitting lid on to prevent any air from entering. And he doesn't mention the lid. I don't know if anyone still does this case hardening on a small scale. But apart from the atrocious smell of roasted leather, it could be an interesting experiment.

I had to look up Wootz steel, and it sure does sound a bit like it. I Googled case hardening yesterday after my post, and it is still done. An example could be a sprocket for a gearbox, where you machine it almost completely. Case harden it, complete the machining and harden it. It should leave you with a hard outershell and a robust core. But if carbon from leather is better than say powdered carbon from charcoal - that I don't know :-)

Congratulations. Looks like a darn nice machine!

In an old German saddler book, the author specifically writes about utilizing scraps. All sorts of scrap that are to small or to bad to be used for anything else should be put into an iron pot and carbonized by heating this pot over the fire till it is burnt. The burnt leather is then mashed while in the pot, and when it has cooled off, it is finely ground. The carbonized leather is (according to the author) sold to knife makers and instrument makers, And they use it for hardening fine steel. I am pretty sure that the hardening process he is referring to is called "case hardening". You fill a steel box with the carbonized leather and put the item to be hardened into it. put a lid on it all and heat it all to red hot. Keep the heat for a couple of hours. That will cause carbon to infuse the surface of the steel to be hardened so you get a higher carbon content and you can then harden it like normally. I have no idea if anybody still does this since nowadays you can easily get steel with a defined carbon content in. I guess it wasn't quite as easy in 1908. But anyway that is a suggested use of the final remnants of scrap according to the book "Das Sattler, Riemer und Täschner Handwerk" by K. Vollmer Personally I try to use my small scraps for belt keepers and stuff like that. But I think that I could do better. I might have to look into making some key rings.

I built my first pair of chaps using a free pattern from Tandy. The yokes were just one size, the difference was how wide yo made the legs - and how long you made the back- and front belt. Later I have bought a pattern pack from Tandy, and the yokes are still just one size. The first chaps were for my daughter and I am pretty sure she is something like 30" (I didn't measure though). If you are going to make your own pattern for the yokes I'd make them so that they leave maybe 6" forward and probably 4" in the rear, but that is just guessing from how I remember they sat on her. For inspiration there's a part of this forum specifically for stuff like chaps: https://leatherworker.net/forum/forum/100-clothing-jackets-vests-and-chaps/ @FrenchMich and @Rolandranch have both made some gorgeous chaps, so for inspiration it is definitely worth looking at their posts. Brgds Jonas

No, too much decoration and bling to my taste.

@Alexis1234 I just googled hame bender to see what one looked like. I have no idea how much one would cost, but having a son who is training to become a blacksmith I am pretty sure that any youngster (or oldie) training to become ablacksmith / metal worker of sorts would be able to weld one together for you in a couple of hours. A bottle jack shouldn't be too expensive either. So in case a new one is expensive, I'd try to get in touch with any local technical colleges you have nearby and ask if they could make one for you as a training exercise. My son would without a doubt be willing to make one for you, but I'm afraid that the shipping will be a killer :-) Good luck with finding one.

I use mine a lot. It is great for replacing zippers in riding boots, though if the boots are of the dressage type, the arm is a bit short on this model. But for jumping boots it is perfect. Also general shoe repair jobs.

@toolleather I don't think that you can repair that in a way where it will become invisible/blend in. The scratch looks as it is very deep, and I can see that it has even severed some of the stitches on the ornamentation. If you give only that area some oil, you'll darken the surroundings some - and the scratch itself will look even darker I'm afraid. You could try to give all of the brown leather part some oil or leather grease. but the scratch will still be visible. To me it looks like a pair of expensive boots. So it might be worth finding a couple of pieces of leather of approximately the same tan and colour, and then try to make a heavy scratch in those pieces of leather and do some testing on those before moving to the boots. maybe you could find some cheap 2nd hand boots at a thrift shop to experiment on. Good luck Brgds Jonas

Great looking knife! I think the most important thing is that the sheath looks nice from the front, and it does! So never mind that the stitches on the back are not 100% as nice looking as those on the front. If it holds the leather together - that is the main thing. The only suggestion I have would be to ad some sort of a securing flap. I'd hate to loose such a beautiful knife because I tipped in a canoe and it fell out while I was trying to get back in. I am not sure how I would do it on your pouch, but probably something similar to the leather pouches of the Buck 110 knives. Brgds Jonas

@indynusp Most woods can easily get a colour stain just by a drop of water, or a greasy finger etc. If you put wax on after that it will sort of seal it in the wood. There is no harm done at all, but if you want it to be completely free of marks etc. you need to sand it all down again, and then reapply wax to seal the surface. But it is the beauty of a natural material that it will age or develop a patina. It doesn't affect the strength of the wood at all. Some wood species have "colouring" that will be activated by water. Idigbo for instance will turn really yellow if wetted. Ash is much more well mannered in that respect. :-)

looking great, I like the Proverb on the belt.

@Handstitched Happy New Year to you. Up here in the cold north we are still trying to wring out the last few drops of 2023. May 2024 bring you good health, plenty of leather and lots of happiness Cheers

@spurdude101 Pethardware in Czeckia has got some, but I don't know about the quality, and it is not in the US. Laederiet in Denmark has got some good buckles and stuff: https://lederiet.com/shop/97-for-harness/ I haven't been able to find wide bull snaps though. Also that shop is in Denmark, so the shipping is probably expensive. Another idea would be Argentina. I am pretty lousy at speaking Spanish, but I managed to find this shop: https://arandu.com.ar/producto/60202b-guarnicion-tiro-de-uno-con-pechera-y-herrajes-de-bronce-factura-fina/ I had a friend who lived in Argentina, and since their economy has been bad for the last many years, he told me that they still produce as much as possible locally. And they have a long tradition for using horses, but my language skills are not nearly good enough to do some searching for individual hardware in Spanish. Maybe there's a local blacksmith who could make something for you, but again I'm afraid that the price will be prohibitive. I need some heavy elongated D-rings for a stallion halter project, and I haven't been able to find those that I need, so I'm planning on making them myself. Halter snaps you could get a regular 1" wide model of brass / bronze and then I'd silver solder a new wider eye to it. Good luck, brgds Jonas

@Goatmother In the old book called saddle makers illustrated journal there is a recipe for a leather nourishing paste. It is just beef tallow and neatsfoot oil. 3 lbs of tallow melted and 1 lb of NFO poured into the melted tallow. stirred until cooled. I have tried to make it and it works really well. You can off course make a smaller batch. It was originally mentioned as being for work harnesses. Brgds Jonas

@chuck123wapati Yes he was kind enough to just chew on the veg tan :-) So the repair job was doable, I haven't done much leatherwork this year, kind of lots going on with the breast cancer and what not, but now I'm back on the ship, so I thought that I'd better contribute a little to the community again :-) It's nice to be back though. @Dwight It is a bit of a difficult situation, since I kind of blame my son for leaving his stuff on the floor like that, and the dog is primarily my wife's, and as long as you don't catch a dog in the act, there's not much point in cursing at them. But still I was slightly annoyed (to put it mildly) Since I had put a lot of pride into making the chaps last year. Brgds Jonas

@DieselTech thanks for the kind words. Horse related stuff is usually well received by horse owners. So if you would like to make something like it, A halter is really a good place to start, since most horse owners use halters of some kind. It is a doable project, even by hand stitching, but it takes a bit of time. But then again - if you have made it correctly, the halter will last for the next 50 years or so. @TomE Thanks, I follow the instructions given by Gustav :-) And he likes that the stitches are visible. He got his journeyman's certificate as a carpenter this fall, but he has accepted a job as jumping rider at a stable called ESH sport Horses, I don't think the have a net page, but they are on IG. When I visited him he showed me that the head rider also had a triple stitched halter, something Gustav had never seen save for the first one that I made. I am planning on making a stallion halter based on a model that I borrowed from Katrinelund (the local large stallion station) I'll try to make some instructions for it to post here when I get it done. It is a heavy type halter with doubled leather all the way round The throatlatch and the noseband are both in one piece 5/4" wide. The cheek pieces are fastened through a slot in those. So the only hardware is a Ring in the bottom of the nose band. And 3 buckles. one for each cheek piece and one for the throatlatch/neck piece. According to the owner of Katrinelund it is an old model that he had an old saddlemaker make for them years ago. And I can see the idea in it. It isn't a particularly pretty halter but it does a specific job, and it is virtually impossible for the stallions to loose the halter or to tear it apart.

Using the fantastic instructions given by @TomE, I made another double stitched halter for Gustav's girlfriends new horse for Christmas. For some reason they prefer a double stitched halter to a triple stitched, so I give them what they want. This one I made the rolled throatlatch a bit thicker by adding a double filler. The last black one I made was a bit harder to do than the brown ones, It was like the leather was harder, so to overcome that I inserted a thicker filler, and it made it easier. I have also engraved a name tag for the halter, just like I did on the last halters that I have made. The name tag was sewn on after these pictures were taken. The horse's name is Ocean X