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Laying out a saddle pattern
ladyhawkjm posted a topic in Saddle Identification, Restoration & Repair
I was getting ready to start my saddle restoration (replacing all the leather) when I had a thought.... So this might be a really stupid question and maybe it doesn't apply here but I don't want to mess up before I even get really started. When working with fabric, the patterns are suppose to be laid down with the grain of the material.... Is there a ceratin rule for laying out the saddle patterns when it comes to leather? Thanks in Advance~ June -
Does anyone know anything about H.H. Schweitzer saddles out of Matador Texas? I have two saddles inherited from my great great grandfather and great grandfather. I know one was made for my great great grandfather, and don't know where the other one came from. I posted a few pictures, they aren't the best, but at least you can see what I'm talking about. If anyone has any info on the maker I would greatly appreciate it.
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I need help identifying what kind of western saddle I have and how much it could be worth. I'm an english jumper so I don't know much of anything about the western disciplines and types of saddles. I haven't used this saddle, it was given to me a couple years ago and I'd like it to go to someone who'd put it to use. I plan on selling it but the only information I have is 00 2015. Any information is welcomed and appreciated, thank you!
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I dyed one of my best saddles with fiebings pro dye dark brown, and it turned almost black. I’m so sad and it looks hideous. Is there any way to lighten, bleach it or take the dye out? I would love to save it ❤️❤️❤️
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I have received two small bear skin hides from a customer who wants them made into chinks. I have not made any before or woolies so advice would be appreciated. My plan is to make a base from light chap leather and glue and sew the bear skin to it then apply yokes, side pieces, etc. Ones I have seen appeared to be this way as the bear skin did not wrap completely around the leg but stopped at about the inner pant seam line. Does this sound right and would work well? Is there anything else I might not be thinking of that someone who has done this can advise? I do know I will have to shave down the hair under yokes, etc. to glue like with hair on cowhide but there is always little things that come up in new projects. I also attached the 1st yoke I just finished tooling. Still needs dyeing, antiquing, etc. but comments are welcome on it too.
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Saddle stitching. "Dot the i's and cross the t's". https://youtu.be/7e3HC9tuSXA
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I came across an older saddle that had the pinking Edged rossettes. Does anyone know of where to get them or the die? I need sizes 2" and 1 1/4".
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I have not used these leather tools in over 30 years. My dad used them frequently and made quite a few items for me as he taught me... Because I was the only one who knew anything about them, they were left to me when he passed away some time ago... I have kept them stored in their toolbox in my tack room.. I have a "Hereford Brand Yokum saddle" that I primarily use when working young/green horses that's in pretty rough shape. When I went to replace the saddle strings, It appears they are run through the tree... I would love to replace the saddle strings, rework the current leather, tooling and reshading, cleaning up the edges where there is tooling. I know I can do some of this after having removed the back jockey... Because I am not a saddlemaker and consider myself a greenie , I am a bit nervous about taking this down any further. I know I have two more screws to pull on each side of the pommel.... I'm just worried about tearing the seat more.. I'm pretty sure I won't be able to do the replacement I know is needed to the seat where it has been repaired on both sides and where it is still torn up... I believe I really I need to find a saddlemaker for this portion of the restoration process, especially considering I plan to continue using the saddle... To those of you that have done restoration work or are saddlemakers, I'd like to know, if I walked into your shop with a partial, would you be offended? That would be the very last thing I want to do to someone with this skill set so would love some HONEST advice! Below are photos of the saddle I would like to restore and am still looking for more information regarding it's history prior to 1990 which was when it was given to me... Thanks in advance!
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Good morning- Has anyone seen a makers mark of JC under the swells? I have a saddle with EZ Rig d and the only mark I can find on it is JC 310. I have photos but can’t do fire out how to attach them. Any info is appreciated.
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Hey there! My riding instructor wanted me to know if I could safely rotate the D ring to hold a back cinch safely or if she would be better off with a new saddle altogether. Does anyone have any experience with this and would be willing to offer up any advice and guidance? I can get more photos if need be! Thanks in advance!
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Does anyone have any good tips- with legitimate reasoning why you use one or the other for the type of leather you use to make 8' split reins with water loops? I have used both- latigo seems to be easier to get heavier sides (thicker reins) and I am always impressed by the durability, but I like the way bridle/ harness finishes and is much more pliable. I have thought about doubling up lighter weight latigo and stitching but together but I also feel this is a somewhat unnecessary step especially when there isn't much of a return for spending a lot of time on reins. If I were to double and stitch say something in the ball park of 7/8 oz. H.O. latigo- should I apply barges in between? Or add anything in the ends for weight? Do you hot dip? What temp do you like to put your oil at? Thanks in advance
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Hi, I'm in my 60's now. I purchased this saddle with $50 and a summer of mucking out a cow barn. That was 1973 and I was 13. It needs a good cleaning and I started that today. The only possible identification I can locate is what looks like a round stamp, half dollar size, that has been worn off for decades. I think it was already worn off when I took possession in the 70's. I'm thinkin' it was already 20-30 years old when I got it. The stamp is located on the seat right behind the pommel. I'm not even sure what type it is, reining, trail, etc. Would really appreciate any ideas... Thanks! Janis
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I acquired this saddle from a friend, who bought it several years ago from one of her friends. There’s no obvious maker’s mark and the only possible ID I can find on the saddle is a set of numbers on the latigo holder. I assume it’s likely from a small maker and impossible to identify, but I thought I would see if anyone had any ideas. I’m also very curious about the age of the saddle. I’m replacing the saddle strings because the old ones were falling apart and it has ended up being a more labor intensive process than I expected. The strings are run under the rawhide tree. The saddle has round skirts and a wide, short horn. It was initially a light oil but has now darkened quite a bit. The tooling appears to be machined, not hand done. Thanks!!
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Hi all! I just finished up my first saddle build, built on a 15 1/2" Cliff Wade tree. I had a ton of fun with it, and hope I'll be making many more. I roped in it last night after a few rides and it felt great! I used HO 13-15 skirting leather, and hardware from Jeremiah Watt. Everything was hand stitched (I really need to buy a machine!). I know I need to work on my cantle binding stitching, so any tips on keeping that clean and consistent would be welcome. I want to keep improving and I'd be glad to hear any critiques and advice all of you saddle makers might have!
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Hello friends, I have recently inherited a very old saddle. Through a little bit of cleaning discovered that it was manufactured by the late F.O.Baird. There is not a lot of information on this maker available on the internet today. Mostly of what I dug up was related to his artwork and very little of his saddles other than their auction prices. What I did find about the saddles is that they are highly collectible and rare to find. I'm looking for a little more information -- if anyone happens to have any to share it will be appreciated. https://photos.app.goo.gl/FGUt4YYFAexcmgTD8
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Hi again, I am wanting to look into building my own pack saddle on a sawbuck tree. I’m wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of some literature or videos? I have plenty here to build off, but would like to build some more knowledge around it. tthanks in advance!
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I had a Hamley saddle in 1981 3/4 single rig. The front rigging leather was run through the brass o-ring, lapped under and laced with the three point configuration. The single thickness was screwed to the bar around the swell. Where on the side of skirting leather do you think they cut these riggings? The single thickness proved to be quite durable and strong with heavy roping and I used it for 25 years.
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Hello all! Finished saddle 3! It's a 14.5" Olin Young ranch roper. Can't thank Travis Kading enough for letting me do this build at his saddlery and for all the help he gave me along the way! Especially for showing me how to do those single piece swells.
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Hi, this saddle has been given to me and has been passed down in the family for three generations that we know of. It is an N. Porter and the serial number is 23126. I know there is someone here that has the original cards for yhese and would love to get some information to share with the family. Thanks!
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A customer has asked me to restore a favorite saddle of hers and wants the wool redone as well .... Anyone have any tips on how to do this??
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Hi everyone, I'm the leather-craft volunteer for the Equine Rescue and Adoption Foundation ( http://www.eraf.org ). The foundation is located in south Florida. I have been repairing, cleaning, and oiling the leather tack and saddles donated to eraf. These items are usually in in ruff dry, dirty condition and not suitable for use or sale. The foundation currently has about 25 horses available for adoption and sponsorship. Here are some of the leather reins and bridles that I have cleaned and are drying before their wipe down with neetsfoot oil. Here are also a couple of saddles betting repaired.
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Hello Everyone! I have a couple of Vergez Blanchard tools for sale that I got as a gift but never got around to using them. First there is a stitching roulette or pricking wheel with guide and includes #7, 8, 9, 10, 12 wheels, and a saddler's knife which is used to trim leather edges or cut veg tan leather used in the saddlery trade but not limited to it. Stitching Roulette - USD 240 Saddler's Knife - USD 60
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Hello everyone, I recently moved from Montana to Oregon. Specifically, I moved near Albany, in Linn County. When I lived in Montana, I was being taught how to make a saddle by a great guy. Unfortunately, I had to move short notice and wasn't able to get very far. I would like to find someone local to me that would be willing to teach me. I have the Stohlman books and I could probably find some videos, but I would much rather have someone with experience that I could ask questions to and get to know. I also don't have every tool that a person needs. I'm happy to pay and/or help out with any chores that need done. If anyone knows someone like this I would love to be connected with them! Thanks in advance
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Hey y’all! I was wondering what I can use in a pinch from the kitchen to clean and bring leather back to life. A few days back I found that ALL of my leather care products have gone missing when I went to clean and condition an older saddle. I have had this saddle 3 years and I haven’t touched it, before that it sat in a antique shop for God knows how long, and before that I don’t think it was ever cleaned and conditioned. The saddle is super stiff in areas, dirty, and cracking around the tooled areas. All vital parts are in great shape. I’m leasing a horse that I can actually use this saddle on and I do intend to use it. Back to the kitchen.. I got to researching what I can use in a pinch and my search brought me here where I found an old post about using tallow. I don’t have tallow...I have pork fat, duck fat, and spray coconut oil. I opted to use my duck fat. I was quite shocked at the results and how the suppleness returned to parts of the saddle, granted my whole jar of duck fat went into the saddle..it was a tad thirsty.. The duck fat didn’t discolor the saddle either. Can I continue to use duck fat or should I get beef tallow/pork fat? Or should I just buy some kind of leather care product again? (Picture is of saddle after a jar of duck fat)