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Well, not so much the rock, as teh table. The rock he has is fine -- I just like about that much MORE table on the other side of the stone (where he has that vertical thingie). And a table at least 4 feet wide is nice, too... so belts don't hang over the edge - makes 'em tougher to tool

You are correct... I mean, translate: "Quality isn't top of the line" but we " spend time taking glorious imagery outdoors and in coffee shops with some few hired model". Other words, "instead of improving the product, we spend our time trying to convince you to buy it as is". Which - you may or may not have noticed - is exactly what I said two weeks ago. That whole "social" thing is just ONE of the many things wrong with hand made crafts these days. Some people could stand to spend a bit less time "marketing" (we used to call it @$$-kissing) and spend that time IMPROVING their skills (or acquiring some). Try not to take it as just rudeness, but this gains nothing so I won't be adding to it. Not my site, so not up to me - so I guess you can continue if you like. Consider, though, that this site does come up fairly well in search engines, and statements like " Quality isn't top of the line ..." , interests like "interested in: learning about leather work", and your apparent anger probably aren't broadening your customer base.

Ooo.. ouch. See, I woulda never known that, since I aint never instagrammed (or, however ya say that).

I got a wooden one. Don't know how "original it is", but I just cut strips... the art don't start til after that part...

Silly me. I thought this site was about leather. I probably do know people with those throw-together "name brand" items. I have a niece who is pretty much TERRIFIED of being found wtihout something the other girls have. But if instagram, or fakebook, or tweetybird, etc.. is all that necessary and wonderful.. I do have to wonder WHY then such talented and socially gifted (is that a thing?) people would be here wasting their time on silly old me. I dont' date guys. So those who do, it would make sense to go where there are guys who date guys, much more than trying to convince little ole me Just one example, really, ... I mean, WHY were you "hoping" I could "get the message"? WHY would that be important to you? In fact, if I did that, and got good at it, wouldnt' that then increase your competition? Not that either makes any difference to me... just food for thought (as in THINK, not just copy the next guy who also didn't think).

Gotta git back to work, but just takin' a minute to say ...

You make my point. Innovator of leather? What exactly do you, or saddleback, do that makes you an "innovator"? I've seen teh web site, and their product certainly looks okay on the surface (though I don't endorse it until I've touched it). But it's very much a "marketing" business, more than a leather business. What is it that goes into their product that is so "innovative"? It looks to me like if the gal on the 4th sewing machine over quits today, they could replace her by Tuesday and continue on. Translation, what they do-- ANYbody can do. Since YOU are clearly the smart one, I won't bother to define "innovative" for you. I like to see a DIFFERENCE in teh product, not simply the person with the latest camera equipment and the longest speeches. JLS Leather Custom Leather Without the Hype. Really.

Whatcha makin' with the caiman? I've tried it a few times, but the scales are large enough on them things that it doesnt' look so wonderful on some smaller items. I mean any caiman, not just from these folks. The shipping seems to be the common factor here, so far. Mine, the shipping was a tad high - perhaps - but it was also quick, so ....

search why-tube for "simple leather wallet" returns 28,500 results. Remove the "simple" and just search "leather wallet", and you get 5 times that many. Should be about covered Guessing that's about the same size as my little pdf file. Tell ya, though.. I DO like the way you stitched all around the project. Those little things where somebody stitched over the pockets, and then just stop, leaving the middle not stitched, always look unfinished to me. Like the maker just couldn't be bothered to stitch that last couple inches.. So in the end, I think your project looks good.. I like the size, and the color, and the stitching. But I think I'll pass on a video

These can't be that hard to find. They closed two machine shops around here, so not as quick as it used to be. And i used to get work done at the college -- like as in the boys get some actual experience, the college makes a little money, and the customer gets a savings for having the students do it. But maybe they don't do that any more-- certainly not as simple as it used to be (politics). And let's face it... this project is a first year machinist student project. NOT that difficult. My wife says just buy my own lathe (I think she'd rather see a bill for a new lathe than listen to me complain ). But maybe after we move.... The drawing is FREE folks... copyright and royalty free. Print it and HAND IT to the machinist. Unless the guy's dull, this shouldn't take more than an hour... HALF that for the second one....

I'll check ... purdy sure it is.

Lookin' good fellas

There was a comment about that in one of Stohlman's books years back. I can see making a point of NOT sewing across a stirrup leather, or a pulley strap, but I doubt that enough force could be applied on a belt to make a difference. Long as you don't use it to tow your vehicle, shouldn't matter. Still, it isn't necessary -- you "could" just stop the stitching at each side of the belt as you have it, without the line going across. The project looks good, but I agree that 10 oz leather is heavy for a small pouch. About that size, I'd prolly use about 6 oz [2.3mm] - but the 4mm is fine for the belt.

I'm with ya, actually. I usually include a 'stiffener' with my patterns cuz some folks look for 'em. But if you got two layers glued together, she's already 'stiffened', with less bulk and a smoother profile.

The problem with Angelus is the headache ya git from trying to decide between all them colors.

What the what /!@?!@ ! Gimme about 8 minutes .... Card_H04.pdf Assuming you're using about 4 oz leather, skiving edges to about 1/2 thickness, using cement at edges, and familiar with my little carrot "witness" marks (yeah, thas how i spell it, too).

Right. And for holsters 'n' sheathes, belly stretches too much. But,... any tooled / stamped project... belly stretches too much. Belly 'could' be used for small pocket articles which don't receive much if any strain, or for glued-in linings, or for door mats in winter time

There is no such thing as a "good" belly. There ya go.

I don't think location within the U.S. has much to do with shipping costs. I ship here 'n' there, and a few hundred miles one way or another doesn't affect much. Ship to TX, NY, CA.. all about the same cost. In fact, that SAME package to Minneapolis - which is just up the road -- costs the same as the package to San Antonio My wife used to get sucked into all that "hype".. What? Gas is 10¢ off at Walmart? Here... I'll drive across town, burn up $3.00 worth of gas, to get over there and save $2.00 on a fill-up (20 gal times 10¢)! IN the end, hopefully people are balancing "cost" (price PLUS shipping) with quality. FREE shipping on belly leather is of no interest to me. I don't even know why people would bother with buying "B" grade leather, when teh "A" grade is only $5 more (per side). For perspective, a dog collar guy is making what... safely 70 collars from a side? So.. 70 divided into $5 makes the cost difference about 7¢ ....

Exactly what Ive got going on here, ChriJ. Two charges went through, and when I called the card company, that gal said they caught it and shut it off - but there were a lot more right behind it. In teh end, the amount will be put back on my card. But, the price of 2x4's just went up at Home Depot, where they will add the price of fraud protection right into the price of what they sell. So bottom line, we're all paying for this type of thing ...

That IS the sales pitch here. To some extent it makes sense. I mean, if the price ISN"T more, then basically you're asking someone else to pay for leather, cut out the part you don't want, and sell you the just the part you want and keep the less wonderful part themself. Not strange, I generally find that those who ask others to do that, seem unwilling to do it themselves. I'm not getting the whole thing about pricing a strap by the square foot. If you just need one or two straps, then it's a bit of a waste to buy a side of leather. And it actually IS more difficult to find a 48" long piece with no markings than it is to get a piece 12" wide, so you might expect a higher per foot cost. So, if you buy a side, and really just need a few straps ... what do you do with the rest? I don't really see much people buying sides to get the couple straps they need, then offering a good price to the next guy on the couple straps THEY need, etc.... But back to the original question --no, I dont know of a "better" supplier. A belt for a 40" waist at 1 1/2" wide "should" cost -- by your calculation -- about $5. But I don't know where you would find that.

The guy's work is very nice - no question. I'm just not giving credit for THIS "tidbit", since it's not his. Years back, I 'figured out' that my work would still be good to finish up on later if i take the tracing film I transferred the design with, and just leave it on the unfinished portion. Now, this is no great "revelation"... anybody coulda figured that out. But either way, it would be silly to then say "Hey, Jeff had a great idea!" .. when fact is people did that before I ever picked up a piece of leather. In the end .... no matter

Exactly my point max... not sure why we are praising some great wisdom for something which has been done for decades

6" BARREL... don't know if he cares if it's flat or not.. I aint never talked to the guy that got the gun. the guy used some of my patterns asked me for one, and I aint got one, and a buddy who sometimes has em aint got one too. Basically, if ya git him a pattern, and he don't like it, well --- his issue

Yeah, in the end she DID call the "sheriff". But the guy that showed up was the PREVIOUS sheriff, whose niece I was 'smoochin' at the time! He walks in, says "this the guy right here?" and when I turned around he says "Hey.. .I know that boy!" Actually, I thought my answer was purdy quick-... but Alex done gone ruined that.. I never thought o the free lunch over at the jail !