Thanks Willem the resons I dont like stanless is the cryo process and the long soak times Im not sure how cost effective it is when you have to run your oven for 3 minits and then again for 2 hours to draw it out. If I was making it for a customer I could pass that cost along to them but for myself I think 01, 1095 or D2 will work just fine it’s easy to work with and inexpensive.