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I didn't say it Brian but your point is taken.

It would seem they're identical machines. The manuals are identical for both. Both descriptions say large capacity hook.The 8mm capacity is for pu? What's pu? for bags and regular belts should that be a concern?

It was a passing thought. Typically a couple of 2-2.4mm.

Absolutely heartbreaking. For some the ultimate price is/was paid. I just don't get it. In a place where these things are a common occurence Surely it's time for mandatory half mile/mile/2 mile fire breaks around every residential area. I know there's been some political wrangling over firebreaks but come on.

On my old Durkopp I started off replacing the clutch motor pulley and extending the arm (cheapest way to go)but still was nowhere near what I needed to control the thing. Never used one before remember. Then I replaced the handwheel for a 170mm pulley which was much better (and easier to find whilst looking at the work) but still not slow enough so I installed the Jack servo you mentioned earlier and at last it was good for me speed wise but as slow as I tried to press that pedal it always came as a surprise when the damn thing started. I installed the ENP as an afterthought and it's given me more confidence knowing where that needle is. I'm sure I'll get better at it as time goes on. A bit like a golf swing I guess, you start off trying to concentrate on every aspect until it comes right and then you don't need to think about it at all. The foot lift is fairly limited on these machines. The Konsew specs say 8mm hand lift 13mm knee lift for the Global. The Global site says 6mm hand lift 13mm knee lift. I can't see that as a problem for me but out of curiosity, if sewing and it rides up on thicker than 13mm can the presser bar accomodate or will it jam?

Just spoke to Konsew. Price inc everything except EPS which will be £30. He's just offered the GLOBAL WF35 Cylinder Arm for the same price. He says it's better built than the Typical and made with better metal and it's not a clone unlike the Typical. What do you thnk guys? https://konsew.com/industrial-sewing-machine/global-wf35-cylinder-arm-walking-foot-needle-feed

Wow! Light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks guys. I was beginning to think I was looking for a unicorn for under £1000. Now I'm getting frightened. I might have to buy the thing before I'm ready for it.

What's wrong with this one guys? I wouldn't mind the drive to Ruislip for this one. https://konsew.com/industrial-sewing-machine/special-sewing-machine/typical-gc2603-cylinder-arm-walking-foot-needle-feed-sewing-machine Youtube vid here but I think the guy must be drunk because I can't understand a word he's saying.

I had a small shopitting company so travelling all over staying in lots of hotels. In the morning, still green gilled whilst the others enjoyed a much needed breakfast to do a hard days work. I would never have believed the change after I switched. Didn't get drunk and could eat like a horse in the morning. I still can hardly believe the difference.

Well don't look my way! I have to save my pennies for a sewing machine. And it's beginning to look like I'm gonna need a lot more of em than I first thought.

I spent a few of my formative years with my head in the toilet down to whisky before someone advised me to try the grape rather than the grain. Been on Brandy ever since. An absolute eye opener.

Ah! As in "paysties" rather than "Passties", The stick on thingies. :). Sorry Mike, my brain is stricyly linear. Absolutely pants at cryptic.

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Thanks again guys. This is brilliant stuff for those of us who don't know the difference between a clone and a tractor. I will peruse with interest after I've cooked the dogs dinner. (I'm having a pastie. :( )

It seems Brother machines are not highly rated but what about something like this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-S335-CYLINDER-ARM-WALKING-FOOT-WITH-UNISON-FEED-INDUSTRIAL-SEWING-MACHINE-/143139355317?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

Thanks Brian. Great information for a newbie. Hadn't even thought about distance from the edge and I can see where it would matter. Trouble is they're very expensive and you don't see used ones very often in the UK. However, even though I've never sold a single piece of leather in my life YET, I've always believed in having the right tools for the job. Another couple of cliches, buy once cry once and start the way you mean to go on. I can feel my budget stretching by the minute. Any cheaper suggestions welcome.

This looks better. Looks like it has a servo with eps. Hasn't been used for two years. What's the 6B for? And the H2S? Not sure if I want to stretch that far but at least it looks like it won't take much to get it going and I'd rather travel to the outer reaches of Essex than go around the M25. What do you guys think? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pfaff-Industrial-Sewing-Machine-Cylinder-Arm-Walking-Foot/223538687170?hash=item340bf1acc2:g:CI4AAOSw78hc9AN2

I like that a lot! Gotta love stuff that have a purpose. Can't even guess at how many times you get asked "That's great! Where did you buy it?"

I hear ya But a basic servo = £120 with ENP, Even from Kent to Ruislip is gonna cost around £80 plus AND involves navigating the dreaded M25 (The London ring road. They call it the car park). By the time you get home it'll feel like an Aussie trip and you need a lie down in a darkened room. Stuff like changing out the hand wheel for bigger is personal choice but the parts needed to restore to normal and anything broken Won't leave much change out of £200 I'm guessing. I would probably take it on if it had been recently used and I could see it running.

I've been on the end of that as well. Sold a perfectly good expensive Schmidt and Bender scope to a guy in Scotland I had to take it back with a rattle in it and had to pay for the repair but when distance buying what guarantees are there that you're going to get what you paid for in a one time transaction? Different of course with reputable dealers.

I found this one but I'm thinking the extra costings would make it too expensive plus why won't the seller take PayPal? And it's not set up so can't test it. A service/overhaul. A servo motor. Converting back to "normal" sewing. Cost of collecting https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pfaff-335-cylinder-arm-sewing-machine-awning-canopy-valance-edge-ready/114109301465

My God Brian! I'm beginning to suspect you're a alien with your work output! I get tired just reading about what you get up to. Never having used a cylinder arm before I'm gonna need educating but with my focus on handbags at the moment I hadn't thought that end was that important. I guess it must be for some else you wouldn't be focussing on it. Using my crystal ball the only other accessory I might want/need is a binder. I'm watching this space.

Thanks Matt. Just feelers at the moment. Can stretch it for something good, just have to justify to myself for what is just a hobby at the moment although I'll have to start getting some money back soon.

Despite read these pages and many more beside, I'm thinking about another machine and have to ask you guys to help me out. My .17 Hornet has been in the cabinet for far too long and I'm thinking about turning it into a cylinder arm machine. My evolution has taught me that I almost certainly won't need to go heavier than handbag types, maybe a decent belt but I've got the trusty Durkopp for that. What can I get for around £700 - £800? New would be nice or as near to it as I can get. Don't mind clones as long as they're reliable and I don't have to hunt for a manual. Pretty please guys?

Amen to all the above. There's far more trepidation when I sit down to my machine than when I hand stitch. I think the artisans among us are more likely to rear up at the dark side.