Thanks much, 1&1/2 to 2 inch seems to be the width and double snaps sell better than grommet and thong ties, sold out again, could be the $8.00 price or nostalgia. Time and my cost is very little as usually the leather is scrap from other projects and maybe an hour to make one excluding drying time. I am getting a little tired (Bored) of the smaller items and look forward to more challenging projects. I just got a new beach cruiser bike and it will be a testbed for some new ideas for bags and such, and excersize too, I had forgotten how much fun riding a bike was, maybe I can write it off as a business expense. LOL