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I know - manuals folder has been deleted by mistake - sorry folks. Please end me your email by PM and I will send you the files

Ole South - I agree the Chinese stitcher look dead ugly and (for me) this would be a reason not to buy them but seems they are sewing and thats what they should do. If you just consider them just as a tool for a certain job then why not. But for me the esthetic aspect is quite important. I would not buy a machine when it is dead ugly. I mean you probably have to look at this big piece of metal everyday and you always think - god damn are you ugly. This has nothing to do with it´s performance. Regarding the 29K´s - some pictures would be nice. I also have restored a 29K71 and it turned out very well. http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=56079&hl=29k71 The big advantage of the 29K70´s subclass machines is that you can find almost every single part for them - probably not unimportant for the future. But it of course depends on the total price incl. new parts you have to pay. But most patchers don´t have a motors so thats something I´d consider it as optional. I think patchers are more expensive in the US tan on my side of the pond but when you can get a well working 29K71 with servo motor and stand or table for about $500 - why not. When I brake down what I have paid for mine incl. restoration I think I come up with approx. 220€ or a bit more w/o stand and motor. For me the fact that I can always can find parts for this machine was quite important. I could have bought other patchers but the 29K71 was the one I always wanted so for me it was worth every cent. Mine sews 138 thread with a 140 / 22 needle without problems.

Thanks Folks! @ Pcox I think they are a bit too short. Better too long than too short. @Ole South I think that would have been the closest but I already have ordered a Class 31 and Class 17 bar last week but if they don´t work the next I´ll try will be the Class 78 bar. Too bad you have not replied earlier but no problem at all Thanks anyway!

I´d buy a new set. Why messing around with glue, these Singer 111 type feet cost just a few bucks.

what particular screws are you looking for?

"U" Suffix machine were made in Japan AFAIK but thats nothing bad. The17 Class machines have very tiny bobbins approx the size of the 29K bobbins. I´d rather consider them as light duty machines. Though the 17 Class I once owned (from the early 1900´s) was able to sew with 138 thread but 69 thread is what it works best with I´d say. Many of them came with roller feet. Price depends on condition, accessories, motor and so forth, some pictures would be nice to see.

I just have checked my old pictures - seems this really is a German machine - got it? Sorry - I could not resist - maybe not too funny If inappropriate please delete.

Cobra 22618-8B is a "clone" of the Consew 227 and the like and is pretty much limited to 138 thread. The Cowboy 3200 is a much heavier machine with oscillating barrel hook and it can handle much heavier thread (up to 277 afaik). The equivalent to the Cobra 22618-8B is the Cowboy CB227 or Tecsew 2700.

This is so cool!!!! You should make some for the 441 type machine I´m sure they will sell like hot cakes.

Thank you - always glad when I can share something.

Still working on this machine... Actually my longest restoration project EVER. I still don´t know if I will motorize it or not. But I was able to locate a very nice and quite large cast iron step pulley that perfectly fits the machine. I made a copper shim and it now fits like a glove. Shaft needs a flat spot for the set screws but thats something for the cold days. I stripped the paint in an electrolysis bath and painted it. I actually have 2 of these large pulleys - maybe someone is interested in the 2nd one. I´ll post it in the sales section in the days to come. Some pictures

It depends on the wood and the number of layers they have used for the plywood and the thickness. 4mm waterproof oak multiplex is harder than plain 4mm birch plywood. These "Sewing Plywood and Sewing Metal" videos are just for impressing people but it is nothing special. Sellers like to show how strong their machines are . Well - even my Singer 307G2 (drop feed) machine can sew through some sort of Plywood or some sort of metal sheets. The needle tip will punch trough a lot of "things" - it´s all about pressure on a small spot and frictional force. But everything of course has it´s limits.

Thanks a lot Bob + Wizcrafts for replying my post and PM and taking some measures. I think I can deal with these information. Fingers crossed.

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=66952&st=0&p=435945

I have scanned the original Singer 211 Operators Guide I have an turned it into a PDF file (as printer friendly as possible) I made 2 versions so you can choose which one you like to print out: Hope you like it. Singer 211 Operators Guide-Small.pdf Singer 211 Operators Guide-Large.pdf

@ EVO160 / Darren - he has none Still looking for the needle bar diameter and length of Singer 17, 18, 31, 16, 128, 96 or similar machines so I can compare the measures. Meanwhile I know the 31-15 needle bar has the correct length but for some reason I can´t figure out diameter. Singer 17 / 18 bars will most likely fit but they are a bit shorter. I don´t like ordering parts and send them back as it annoys me and the seller. Would be nice if some of you guys could pull out your calipers...

The 211G466 is a large hook machine afaik meaning it is using bobbins with 60% more thread capacity compared with the the standard bobbins. Your machine is made in Germany by the way. I have some original paperwork incl. the original Operators Guider that came with the 211G machines. I will scan it and post a PDF file here or in an extra thread. I have not much time atm so here are some quick pictures first - hope this helps a little bit. I will scan the guide in the days to come.

I forgot the link: http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-sewing-machine-serial-number-database.html

Machine appears to be from the 1960´s because of the nameplate and Singer tag. Check with ISMACS and look up the serial number so you will probably find the orig. Mfg. date. Looks like a binding machine. You probably have to change the needle plate and maybe the feed dog if you want to sew leather.

Bob, if you don´t mind could you check the length of the 16 class needle bar and in case you have a 17 class could you check the measurements as well? Thanks a lot in advance

I have seen the Singer 17. http://www.ebay.de/itm/Singer-17-16-Passepartout-Nahmaschine-Ledernahmaschine-/221929814704?hash=item33ac0c3ab0:g:CFMAAOSw5VFWNx4F I´m sure it will not sell (damn I could use the bobbin winder for my 34K ) There for sure is not a huge market for these light duty machiens and this Singer 17 is much older than the Pfaff 28. I´d say the Pfaff 28 is a technically advance variant or clone of the Singer 17. You either need it or you don´t need it. Same with bar tackers or the like. No one buys them but if you need one and find the right one it´s worth the money. I think you don´t need a speed reducer for these light duty machines.

no big deal - just my 2 cents.

Some pictures of the restored machine before the accident happened. Fortunately it fits in the cut out on my 1111G156 table (not perfectly but it fits and works)

Well, Sieck in Germany sells them for way more. That does not mean they are worth the price but I´d still say they are worth more than $150. BTW - mine was much nicer than this one http://www.sieck.de/en/machines/sewing/arm-type-machines/details/1287/

Thanks a lot Bob - that really helps Can you tell me how long the 16 class needle bar is? Any chance that you can measure a needle bar of a 17 or 18 class as well? There are 3 (at least) different subclasses of the 34K. 34K1, 34K5 and 34K11. The 34K11 has the 45K "style" head with larger hook and the other 2 have the smaller head like the 17K or similar and with the hook of the 29K72 or Adler 30-7. I have attached the partslist. Not sure if there were other subclasses as well but thats what I can tell from the parts list. I even have found and original manual for the 34K in the UK Not sure whats special on my 34K S.V. 5. I´ll post some pictures of mine later. SINGER 34K1.pdf