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The Consew CP 206R isn't a true triple/compound (top+bottom+needle) feed machine either, just a top+bottom feed. The needle does not help move the material. A sewing demo video of the Consew CP 206r is not confidence inducing in my mind. In contrast, the confusingly similar named Consew 206RB (slightly strange sewing demo video) looks similar at a superficial glance, but it's a totally different design, a factory strength machine with a proper compound feed. An ugly but functional used Consew 206RB is much more desirable for leather work than a shiny new Consew CP 206r, in my opinion. I started my sewing adventure with a Consew 225. It was not pretty when I picked it up at the local thrift shop, but it worked and was a great machine to learn with and work on (early video I made with it). After getting the mechanics to work smoothly, I eventually gave it a cosmetic overhaul as well. I posted it in the for sale section here after I got my hands on a nice Adler 67. Make sure you read the fine print of the machines design specs and closely inspect video footage (if available) of the machines you're considering.
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Having a machine shipped from America seems like a waste of shipping money. You have nearly a dozen countries within daytrip distance from where you live, with a good supply of name brands like Adler, Pfaff, etc. There must be a few machines coming up for sale every so often with a major fashion center like Milan nearby. Avoid shipping if you can - it's a risk with these machines and many get damaged during shipping because many private sellers don't know how to package them properly. It may take a little time to get the perfect (or even a good-enough) machine. Start with one that just works and is cheap, then upgrade when you've earned enough money with it and you know what you really want in a machine. Make sure you can get a service manual for your machine before you buy it - it's very important when it comes to fixing things yourself. No matter what machine you start with, you'll want to upgrade eventually. Sewing machines can be addictive and you learn a lot once you start using them. Old is good when it comes to leather sewing machines. If you read the posts on this forum you'll soon see a pattern of just a dozen or so machines that have been around forever, copied many times, and have a good supply of parts and accessories. Look for an old Adler 67/167/267, Consew 225/226, Singer 111, or something along those lines. If the machine works and you take care of it and don't abuse it, it will last you forever. Check ebay and also the local/regional online for-sale sites where people sell things that are too heavy to ship (washing machines, etc.) That's were many people sell sewing machines. We have Craigslist.com here in north America - there must be something similar in Europe. Register on the site, develop some good search terms and subscribe to searches in order to get notified via email when a suitable machine comes up for sale. You'll be one step ahead of the casual shopper who only checks every couple of days. The good machines at bargain prices often sell within a matter of hours, not days. Good luck with your search, let us know what you end up getting.
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If you're looking for a modern, state of the art machine that does what you're asking with a little more versatility than a sole stitcher, consider the Durkopp Adler 969 H-Type cylinder bed or the Durkopp Adler 967 H-Type flatbed. The 969's material handling specs are wicked with a price tag to match.
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There's an english service manual for the Adler 267 twin needle model with needle bar instructions starting on page 20. The disassembly procedure has much in common with the Adler 67 procedure, including three tiny spring loaded balls that pop out at some point of disassembly (and surely will fly across the room into some crevice never to be seen again unless you know what to expect.)
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How good is your German? The Adler 67 Service Manual describes how to remove the needle bar on page 40/41, albeit in German. It's a bit of a puzzle with three tiny metal balls that have to be aligned with a slot and such - I've had too much wine to give it a go. I've seen an english version of the Adler 67 Service Manual at the sewusa.com website, but they want money. I do wish people would stop charging for things that should be free, especially if they don't own the copyright in the first place. A fellow leatherworker may have the english version already and may be inclined to share it here for general edification.
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My Adler 67 has the standard mounting holes for attachments. Sailrite makes a nice binder attachment that uses these standard mounting holes and it may work on your 227R as well. The curvature of the top plate on the Consew 227 may still be an issue, as it will slightly tilt any attachment due to the offset of the mounting holes towards the front. I measured the mounting hole locations on my Adler 67 and took two pictures to illustrate their locations and distances from the centered needle position (stitch length set to "0"):
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Somebody came up with an interesting way to attach a binder to his Consew 227R, as posted here: http://gearmaker.org/index.php?topic=347.0 I have a feeling this guy considered drilling holes directly into the top plate, but must have had reasons to go another route. The curved top plate may not lend itself to mounting a binder directly to it, perhaps due to tight space and moving parts directly underneath (having a screw extend below the top plate may interfere with moving parts). The parts list for the Consew 227 series has 38 parts listed on page 17 that are special to the synchronized binder version of this machine (227RFS). Here's a picture of the custom binder setup and the owner's description:
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Can you post a picture of your machine head and perhaps the binder you plan to use?
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Without seeing pictures of your 105-27 I have to guess its similar to the 105-27 that Nick-o-sew was selling on eBay some time ago. Their machine looked just like a 105-25 but had a little flatbed attachment and an elaborate bobbin winder contraption that ran off the hand wheel. It was not unusual for a time for a high-volume-buyer to request a custom version of a machine to suit their specific manufacturing needs. Help solve the mystery by looking at the Adler brochure of the regular 105 machines and subclasses ( http://www.duerkopp-adler.com/commons/download/download-text-attachments/Vintage_Leaflets_Adler/Leaflets_Adler_class_105.pdf ) and then take a few photos of yours that highlight what's different with your machine. If you post the pictures here we'll have a record of it for future inquiring minds and the ever hungry search engines. The only real 105-27 documentation reference I came across is a 2-page parts list sold by Proleptic for $2 (http://proleptic.net/shop/adler/adler-105-27/). Here's a picture of the machine Nick-o-sew was selling:
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It is still available. I'm in Europe right now, returning to Detroit on August 22.
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Another resource for older Pfaff manuals, including 138, 145, etc. is here: http://dixiesewingmachine.tzo.com/PFAFF%20SERVICE%20BOOK.htm
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Pfaff makes manuals for some of its machines available here: https://www.pfaff-industrial.de/en/support/downloads/technical?set_language=en The manuals cover mostly newer models, so yours may not be in the list.
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Your reverse lever may not be "centered" properly. With stitch length set to max and needle at bottom dead center, the top and bottom feed dogs and should NOT move when moving the reverse lever up and down. If the feed dogs move, your forward and backward feed dog movements will not be equal. On page 11 of the 335 service manual ( https://www.pfaff-industrial.de/db-downloads/technicaldoc/justieranleitungen/300/ja_335_01-14_en/@@download/file/JA_335_01-14_EN.pdf) they talk about how to "center" the reverse lever. The manual is for the newer model, but often these mechanical adjustments are the same over several generations of the machine.
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Adler 267 - Engine Question And Vs Fomax Ws 1335
Uwe replied to 276ccm's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
The needle positioning systems on these cheap servo motors mostly work by installing the sensor on the hand wheel ( easy or hard, depending on your machine). The sensor has a switch that activates when the hand wheel is in a certain position. During setup you turn the hand wheel in the desired position (usually needle down), then turn the sensor until the switch activates and the little light comes on, then tighten the set screw. The programming unit now knows which position is the down position and will stop in that position when you let go of the pedal. The programming unit usually allows you to switch between stopping in either needle up or down position with a few button presses. However, it does NOT stop wherever you start. Some systems also have the "heel" feature which gives you an additional half turn when you tilt the pedal backwards with your heel, making both up and down needle positions easily accessible. It's not so easy to turn the needle positioning OFF on the systems I have tried. I wish they had a simple three-way switch like my old Viking has (up/off/down), but unfortunately they generally use button presses to navigate a cryptic, crude menu with no OFF option. On my motors I had to unplug the sensor to turn needle positioning off. Much of the above probably does not apply to fancy setups like Efka systems etc. -
Adler 267 - Engine Question And Vs Fomax Ws 1335
Uwe replied to 276ccm's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
Hola Marius, The topic of servo motor variations and relative benefits deserves its own topic. From my personal experience here's what I found: There's only a handful of variations on these motors that seemingly come out of even fewer factories in China. All of them benefit from installing the smaller pulley (50mm) if you want to sew slow and leather. All of them can be combined with a speed reducer which will make them powerful enough to deal with your machine and leather. Some motors have optical sensors to translate pedal movement to speed, others have a magnetic sensor. I think the jk model has a magnetic sensor because it looks identical to my Consew branded motor. The optical sensors can be easily modified to improve pedal response - many post on that topic on YouTube and this website. No such modification is possible with magnetic sensors to my knowledge and pedal response is just okay but not great on my Consew motor. The build quality and materials vary, from plastic mounting brackets to cast aluminum parts. The JK version appears to the cast aluminum version, the ISM version appears to be plastic. The needle positioning should be accurate enough on either of them if you adjust/set the hand wheel position correctly. I tried two different servo motors with needle positioning and didn't like either of them, mainly because I set my sewing speed very slow at about a stitch per second and the needle positioning happens at normal speed. This means as I sew slowly and let go of the pedal, the motor speeds up to move the needle to next target needle position very quickly. I could not get used to the motor speeding up when I let go of the pedal and removed the needle position sensor. Personally I prefer to have good, gradual speed control at the low end and the motor to just stop exactly when I let go of the pedal. Reporting live from Hurtigruten ship MS Lofoten in the Norwegian Fjords . . . -
Adler 267 - Engine Question And Vs Fomax Ws 1335
Uwe replied to 276ccm's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
Out of the two machines you're considering, I think the Adler is more desirable because it's an original as opposed to a clone, likely to retain its value better and allow you to sew thicker materials and user thicker threads. That Adler looks like it's in super nice condition! The Pfaff 335 clones will be more versatile for getting into tight spots on bags etc. Clones in general are more risky in terms of quality, longevity and value retention. The 335 clones don't have a drop bottom feed, the feed dogs moves back and forth, but it does not lower or raise as it moves (except for one subclass, which I doubt was ever cloned.) Both machines will work fine a with a servo motor with positioner capability. A speed reducer will translate excess speed into punching power and will make almost any motor powerful enough for both machines. In Europe, Sieck.de and College-sewing.co.uk keep coming up as good resource for sewing parts. I saw a nice Efka positioning motor in German eBay(http://www.ebay.de/itm/Efka-Variostop-380-V-Industrienahmaschinen-Motor-/201397421450?hash=item2ee438c58a) Local Oslo member Tor (user name Trox) has a vast knowledge and experience in all things sewing machines and has some very cool variable frequency speed control setups ( not sure if they are position sensor capable). -
I don't know of a source for ready-cut real leather edging tape. There are a few choices for PU imitation leather edging tape that pop up in Google. Mass produced goods often use bound edges to hide the not-so-pretty layer edges of mixed materials or the raw edges of poorly tanned leather that is still blue in the center. On smaller scales, I'm guessing most leather crafters make their own leather edging tape from the same hide to make sure the leather color and texture match or coordinate with the main piece. A large cutting mat, metal ruler, a clamp or two, and a very sharp knife will go a long way to making nice straight strips in small batches. Personally I use a large, moderately expensive Logan 850 mat cutter I originally got for cutting photo mat stock to make up to 48" long precise strips of leather for handles, belts, etc. If you're going to make a lot of straps and have the money, there are special leather strip cutting machines available. Of course after you cut the strap, you probably also need to thin the leather with a skiving/splitting tool.
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So you print the gradient on normal paper and then attach it to the clear plastic just for stiffness, right?
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Just from looking at your pictures, it seems that your needle holder "might" work if you turn it around to that the screw is on the left and presses against the needle directly. As it is in the pictures, the geometry of the needle and bar may not allow it to press the needle properly against the needle bar to hold it tight.
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The Kwok Hing website can be a pain to navigate. Here's a link to page I think you need: http://www.kwokhing.com/KHF/app/app_bi_1n.htm Once you find what you need or want, you'll need a bit of good luck finding somebody who can actually sell you the thing. Ordering directly from Kwok Hing can be challenging. Of course a google search for "Consew 206rb-1 binder" also comes up with a couple variations on the theme and a few buying options in the $50-60 range so you at least know what you're looking for. Our header advertisers may also stock these binders and be able to offer advice. Exactly which of the binders work for your application depends on the leather strip/tape you're trying to use for binding (how thick, how wide, etc.) If you make your own strip/tape you can customize it to fit whatever binder you get. If you plan to use ready-made leather tape, you'll have to get a binder that is compatible with that particular size leather strip/tape.
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Nice work on the copper table frame, Mr. Sergeant! I like the walnut pedal, too - it looks very classy.
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Thanks guys! I am busy making enough parts to put about a dozen or so of these table attachments together. They'll be for sale starting in late August when I get back from Europe
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Oops, bad link. This one works: http://www.ebay.com/sch/uwe/m.html
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Due to the lack of nice table attachments for 335 class machines I've been working on my own design over the past few weeks. Rather than doing a one-off, I've decided to put a little more manufacturing thought into it so I can make more if I want. It's far enough along to share a few sneak peek pictures. This version attaches directly to the arm via three knobs. The board is made from bamboo, the white insert is powder coated aluminum, and the bobbin access plate is polished steel (held in place by three magnets). The knob on top of the arm uses a little cup to isolate the pivoting feed dog arm from the table to avoid binding.The whole affair installs in under a minute without tools and is surprisingly solid. I'm still fine tuning a few details and will probably make a few extras to sell after get back from vacation (watch out Trox, I'm heading to Oslo!) Here are a few pictures of the current state of development:
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I got some nice Kwok Hing presser feet in this week and put my extras on Ebay ( http://www.ebay.com/sch/uwe/m.html ) Below are a few pictures of the feet. Prices are $65 for the spring edge guide and $89 for the Left/Right feet on Ebay. 10% less via direct PM if you prefer.