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that sure should prove your point , it looks really nice. How do they get ahold of you?

here is some good info to have on hand. https://www.leather-dictionary.com/index.php/Split_leather

That is good !! its been a tough winter here, two back to back heavy snow falls ,that left over three feet then just last week another heavy one with 9 inches or so, all the critters are hungry and i 'm hoping they make the birthing season without more snow.

didn't see this one but i have agree it does look nice! Now you need to work on those bolsters a bit.

Did you know you could feed hawks with bread crumbs? We have been putting out our stale bread for the finches but the squirrels took over. Now it appears the hawks are back for the summer.

beautiful work my friend, how many tools are used in that pattern? is your loop sewn on?

I don't think it is , its very light and flexible though when seasoned, so they don't break easily they bend a bit. when i was a kid i would climb the young trees until they bent over and let me back off on the ground don't know why i thought it was so much fun but it was to me lol. when they clear cut the pine then the quakies grow back in so thick that the forest service has to thin them out, they leave big piles of the saplings so i get a few.

Give it a go man life is short. lol

but if ya are worried about .2mm difference and cant skive it then moisten it and press it, burnish or hammer it, remember its leather and it will compress

yes you are fogging a dead horse, build the wallet now your leather will be thinner too after about a year of settin on it

we learn form each other , that's what life is about in a healthy thriving society. there is nothing except maybe walking that we haven't learned from others. I learned from you how to make a desk top leather picture, that is so cool you even put in the corners and i will copy it at some point I'm sure but i will give you any and all credit.

found this in Al Stohlman bio on wikipedia for what its worth. Al did the same thing as anyone of the era, made what they couldn't buy out of the cheapest thing they could find. "He and a few friends used pocket knives to carve the leather and created rudimentary tools out of nails shaped into various forms.["

lol I had the same problem, i honestly have never done a flower like those in my life. But i learned new stuff and had some fun doing it.

your own pattern and that looks great man and you can copy me any time you want but you may want to do it right instead lol.

cmon man put it out there none are better just different. Like all of us.

Then your lookin at the king at innovation!!!! lol nothin i do ever turns out the same Sadly ethical thinking has been largely forgotten in the business world.

i carried a flashlight for years i know your pain lol.

nails were only square until they took a file to them lol. they made many different tools from the raw stock including sewing awls. po folk got po ways but they got the same grey matter as rich folks.

Absolutely agree my friend on the ethics there are many people here who could copy just about anything anyone else does and sometimes much better. As are mine Tug no ill intentions meant on my part, just food for thought. Social media has taken away civil discourse and the human right to differing opinions without argument or hard feelings , but only if we allow it. But see now i can see what a typical watercolor brush stroke becomes with dye and leather, its called a graded wash basic to all water color artists and in no way unique to that process, with some fine sketching with a quill and ink on top and you have something completely different and unique. I've seen that simple type of adornment it reminds me of Japanese style of decoration.

In that instance its used as a buzzword just to sell a holster. Period. you are right it wasn't stamped with nails, but its a copy of one that may have been. I've heard the term used in folk art, basically it came from people using whatever metal they could scrounge to create tools for their project nails being the most common, Scrimshaw for example is nail art, so is some metal engraving. the old tin lanterns punched with nails and made from cans is another. i have a great piece of nail art, my dad after ww2 was a rough neck, he made a graver out of a nail to tool his aluminum hardhat with all his travels, pictures and such. Leather work was no different holsters, saddles and about any leather was ornamented at some point by people with the very basic of skills and tools. Its all under the heading of folk art. You want to see it go to a museum only the best examples go in books. I've seen a ton of it in museums, i love that book but its only a few holsters out of hundreds of thousands so limited in its knowledge base.

I wholeheartedly agree about plagiarizing a persons work solely for profit, that's stealing no doubt, and also finding your own niche but now for the rub.... Every single thing we know or do has been done before by someone else before us. Where do you suggest people stop? At the cool stuff? can we copy the easy stuff? the stuff that isn't unique? How would we have ever came this far as humans if we didn't copy our predecessors and then improve on those ideas to create our "niche"? That is what sets us apart from animals, the ability to copy is the essence of the ability to learn. That being said... I would be willing to bet the person that is selling those didn't figure out any super new or secret technique that thousands of years of leather workers haven't.

nice work indeed

I've heard the term used but for wood as well as leather in "FOLK" art. In this case though its just used more as a sales gimmick. Poor folks back in the day made most of their tools for any craft, there wasn't any to be bought nor the money to buy them. So they made them. And then after making the tools. they sat around when unoccupied , night , winter , storms etc and made stuff, there was no tv , radio etc to bide the time. And their designs came from the same place their own minds!!! I've made quite a few of mine that i couldn't afford or wanted to spend what they thought it was worth. If you do go this route use stainless as much as possible. And i cant wait to see what you come up with. Good luck my friend!!!!

once dry your leather edge would be worked just like wood cut ,file, sand then burnish it. Pretty cool effects indeed. just glue up some scrap and try it out.