All the 441 clone type of machine take the 7x3 (which is a round point) and then there's the 7x4 leather point the comes in a nw(narrow wedge point) it doesn't look that good,a LR twist point that gives it a zig-zag look,a diamond point that work s ok & the best needle to use if you want a tight looking stitch is the Schmetz 794S point that looks like a spade point & makes a slice in the leather parallel with the line of stitching (we sell more S-points than the others)