I didn't say that I said this. "neither one of you would have a dog of your choice if it wasn't for breeders. you seem to love to complain"
The difference between natural adaptation and breeding is what happens to the deformities, in the wild they die. If your breeder told you he killed the bad pups in a litter because they weren't perfect how would you react? That is how they did it back then!!! Its human nature to save babies no matter how dysfunctional they are and why deformities exist in the breeding world but not in the wild. Genetics in dogs is fascinating but still humans cant master it.
This is my boy a year or so ago, Curgans Gentle Ben II is his real name he has a seven generation UKC pedigree. plus he has been dna tested we get notices when he gets a new brother , sister or cousin. 125 lbs. of pure muscle, 22" neck. Stacks pretty nice for never being trained.