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Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.
Wizcrafts replied to Brigeyboo's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
No good deed goes unpunished. To be fair to Charlie, I do give preference to our paying dealers when a machine they sell is being discussed. Those folks keep the lights on here, paying 3 to 5k a year to advertise here so you can enjoy free membership where people around the World share knowledge and expertise about leather work and industrial sewing machines. Without their support and that of our "contributing" members, this server would go dark in a relatively short time. -
Restoration for Juki LU-562 & upgrade to LU-563 Bobbin
Wizcrafts replied to Vinito's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
Have you tried Hoffman Brothers in Rosemont, Il? They are a long time industrial sewing machine dealership. -
I see a needle position synchronizer on the balance wheel. This machine was used in a production setting. What you need to look at is whether it has a two or four motion feed dog. If the feed dog moves back, drops down, moves forward and raises up, it is good for some leather sewing. If it only meves forward and backward and doesn't drop, it is a binder machine. A binder machine can still feed unbound material, but the feed motion may shorten the stitch length and won't help feed the material.
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Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.
Wizcrafts replied to Brigeyboo's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
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Here is a service manual for a Singer 29k71 patcher. 29k71-71-73 Service Manual and Parts List.pdf
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The machine head will arrive fully adjusted, oiled, needled and threaded, with a sewn test stack of leather under the feet. The machine head will be in a separate box on the pallet from the pedestal stand. Any accessories you order up front will also be in the machine's box and protected from impact. There will be an assembly guide, or even a DVD. You will need to assemble the table and mount the machine before you can use it at all. Do not turn any knobs or screws on the machine head at this time! The head itself is very heavy and you will definitely need assistance mounting and securing it to the pedestal table. The table should be extended to your preferred operating height before the head is bolted on. It will be very difficult to move it afterwards. If you raise or lower it from the default setting you'll have to reposition the connecting rods and chains to the motor and foot lifter arm. Once the head is mounted onto the table and the v-belts properly tensioned (for about 1/2 inch deflection in the center), follow the thread path, photograph it and memorize it. Open the cover plate on the left end and you will find the bobbin case that has a spring loaded release tab. Pull on the bobbin thread to see what the factory bobbin thread tension is supposed to be for that size thread. Note, that the top thread will probably be cut off of the actual spool it was on. You will have to re thread the machine from a fresh spool once you have assembled the thread stand onto the table. There are some basic techniques you need to learn and keep to heart. The first thing every industrial sewing machine operator has to learn is to physically hold back the starting threads for the first 2 or 3 stitches. Next would be when to try to pull out the work and thread after raising the feet. This happens on the take-up stroke when the take-up lever is close to the top on the upstroke. There is going to have to be hands on time to bring you up to the comfort level to sew actual projects. This is time you will spend practicing sewing straight lines and turns, then sewing parallel lines and reversing. Test strips will help you learn how to adjust the top and bobbin thread tensions for different size thread and needles and different thicknesses of leather. So, yes there is a learning curve. But, it usually happens fairly quickly and you should be on your way in a couple of days after setting it up. You can always contact the seller for assistance (this should be your first option since it is irrevocably included in the price of the machine) and we have many experienced owners of Cobra, Cowboy and Techsew machines in this forum. Many of the owners of these big machines, known in the trade as 441 clones or harness stitchers, had little or no previous experience before buying their machine.
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Broken screw head on needle assembly juki lu563
Wizcrafts replied to Nate88's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
Confirmed! This is a rookie mistake. Most folks just order a new needle bar and go through the process I outlined, or even take it to a dealer. Thou shalt not over-tighten the tiny top screw in the needle bar thread guide! It has nothing to do with securing the needle on most Singer sewing machines and their clones. It is only meant to hold the thread guide in place so it doesn't flop around as you sew. -
Broken screw head on needle assembly juki lu563
Wizcrafts replied to Nate88's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
I just changed the needle bar on a Singer 211G156, from which your machine was cloned. If the parts they copied are the same, here's the sequence that I used to do exactly this operation. WARNING: THIS WAS NOT MY FIRST RODEO. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES THAT MAY ENSUE FROM FOLLOWING THESE STEPS! Unthread the machine Remove the faceplate cover from the left end of the head. Remove the needle and its set screw Remove the small screw that secures the thread guide to the needle bar, then remove the thread guide Hand wheel the balance wheel until the needle is at its lowest point (BDC). Use a flatblade screw driver to loosen the screw that should now be residing in the opening in the needle bar frame, near its lower end. The opening should clear a 1/4" wide screwdriver blade. Don't remove the set screw, just loosen it a couple of turns. Try to turn the needle bar by hand to loosen it, then start raising it up.. A trick to raising a semi-stuck needle bar is to handwheel it up, then grab it above the needle bar rock frame with smooth jaw pliers. Eventually, it will move up until it hits the top of the head. Hand wheel until the needle bar moves under the hole in the head, then use a plier to force it up and out of the head. When you are ready to install the new bar, oil the bar and drop in in from the top, aligning it with the clamp that you loosened the screw on. Then continue pushing or tapping it down from the top until it extends down below the head about 1.5 inches. Rotate the needle bar so the holes for securing the needle and thread guide are on the right and the indent in the bottom of the bar faces you in front of the machine. Gently tighten the clamping set screw to hold the needle bar. Reinstall the thread guide and its tiny set screw, which goes into the top hole in the thread guide and needle bar. Be careful to not overtighten this screw or the head may break off leaving the threads stuck in the needle bar. This will cause the thread guide to flop around as you sew. Insert the needle set screw in the bottom hole in the thread guide. Start it by hand to avoid cross threading it. Insert the largest needle you have or will use. In most upholstery machines this is a #23 needle, then tighten the needle set screw. If your largest anticipated needle will be a smaller size (under #23), use it. Lift the feet with the hand lift lever. Unscrew the throat plate and set it and the 2 screws aside. Aim a good work light into the space between the hook and the feed dog. Hand wheel the balance wheel until the needle reaches BDC, then moves up 3/32", or so. It should be over 1/16 and under 1/8 inch up from BDC. If the hook is inline with the center line of the needle, the hook timing is still on. If the top of the eye of the needle is below the point of the hook and the hook is within the cutout scarf area, lock down the needle bar set screw for all you're worth. If the eye of the needle is not just below the tip of the hook, loosen it enough to move it by hand into the position where the eye is a bit below the hook and the tip of the hook is inside the scarf. Lock down the needle bar set screw to hold this position. Reinstall the throat pate, ensuring that the little tab on the bobbin case fits into the cutout in the throat plate. Thread the machine, insert the bobbin you were using and test to see if the hook picks off the top thread and carries it around the bobbin basket when you hand wheel until the hook passes the needle and the take-up lever pulls the threads up. The top thread should go around the bobbin basket without any snapping or binding then come out the hole in the feed dog smoothly. Also, take note if the hook passes by the needle without making contact with it! If it hits, read my notes below. Reinstall the faceplate after oiling the moving parts and oil holes inside the head. Hopefully, you are good to go at this point. If the hook hits the needle, it must be moved to the right, or the deflector shield needs to be gently pried out to push the needle out of the way. Normally, if the hook is in a working machine the distance and deflection are already set. However, when you change needle bars the lateral position of the needle can change just enough to allow the hook to hit the needle (this just happened to me when I changed needle bars in my Singer 211). Moving the hook is for another discussion. Hopefully that isn't necessary in your case. You can also take the head to a sewing machine dealer and let them do this troublesome work and time it for you. I strongly recommend this if the hook needs to be moved, and/or the hook timing is out relative to the eye of the needle on the upstroke. -
Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.
Wizcrafts replied to Brigeyboo's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
I'm pretty sure that the 25% Chinese Goods Import Tariff would probably be charged, whether or not the invoice is below $800. I know our dealers have to pay it on shipments from China. -
Please report back on how you like it and what temperature range it requires, plus the cooling time when it sets.
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Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.
Wizcrafts replied to Brigeyboo's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
I dug around and found this Customs Brokerage firm who has some very good information on their home page about what one will need to do to import machinery of any kind from China. It is both bewildering and eye opening. -
Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.
Wizcrafts replied to Brigeyboo's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
There has been some discussion in this forum among members who tried importing sewing machines directly from China vs buying in one's country from an authorized dealer. Most agreed that by the time the machine was delivered, any savings was either minimal or zero after paying shipping and handling fees, getting insureance against damages, faxing documents, paying Brokerage warehouses and the cost of Customs and box inspections. One fee most folks overlook if they aren't in the habit of importing machinery from China is the 25% tariff on the landed price. In addition to all of the costs and fees, once the machine arrives you become the dealer for the purposes of assembling it, setting it up, timing it and performing any necessary servicing. Do not expect technical support from the Chinese seller. If a manual is even supplied, it may be in Chinese, or Chinglish. Worse yet, if it gets damaged in transit you will have to file photographic documentation with whomever you paid to be the insurer and hope for compensation. Should you want to return it to the Chinese seller it will be at your expense. -
Sellari's make hard stitching wax that is melted in heated wax pots on Landis sole stitchers and McKay insole stitchers. It is listed on page 59 of the Rockford Leather catalog. Other shoe repair suppliers probably carry it or another brand.
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We have a sub-forum dedicated to 3D printers and Laser cutters where members share files they've created for them.
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Did you know that you can just order a replacement beehive tension spring?
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You will probably get more and better answers in our Leather Sewing Machines forum, but you would have to first become a member. It only takes a few minutes and costs nothing. We have several long time members in Australia. All posts and replies in this Help Wanted section have to wait for approval by a moderator before they can be seen. You also don't have access to our private messages system, which members do enjoy.
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Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.
Wizcrafts replied to Brigeyboo's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
When I got my Adler 30-7 it too needed some replacement parts. They added up to about $250. Additionally, the needles are extra long and not very plentiful. Thus, what is available is expensive. If you were in business with a walk-in customer base, the Adler would be worth fixing for on-the-spot repairs. -
Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.
Wizcrafts replied to Brigeyboo's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
The Adler 30 series are shoe patchers. They are top feed only, via teeth on the jumping foot. The bobbins in this particular machine are tiny. It is best limited to #69 bonded nylon thread. If you don't repair shoes and boots, you can use it to sew embroidered patches over pockets and sleeves on biker's vests and jackets. They get into narrow spaces, like the sides of purses where the strap connecting tabs tend to let go. Once you get it sewing it can make you quick cash doing repairs for people. This machine will not substitute for a compound feed walking foot machine with normal or oversize bobbins. -
Question Re: 135X16 System Needle Points
Wizcrafts replied to Arturomex's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
I find that tri-point and diamond point needles give a more raised appearance on top and tighter holes. Otherwise, try round points in system 135x17. -
Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.
Wizcrafts replied to Brigeyboo's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
I have a Techsew 2700. It is a light duty walking foot machine with a cylinder arm. It is very efficient with small to medium thread sizes, from 46 through 138. Because I have other heavy duty machines, I only use #46, 69 and 92 in my 2700. This prolongs its life and the bobbins go much farther than with heavier thread. The Cowboy 227R and Techsew 2700 are similar machines, clones of the Singer 153. If you are choosing between those machines, find out how much the shipping will cost to your door. The rates are lower if shipped to a loading dock than to a building requiring a truck with a lift gate. I was going to link to the Techsew 2700 page, but it no longer exists. You may have to move up to a newer and more expensive model, like the Techsew 2750. The website has a bold top banner mentioning a 2 to 3 week delay in shipping due to Covid-19 issues. I don't know if this is still the case. -
Yes, if you plan to lubricate your top thread. Some sticky materials may benefit from having the thread run through liquid silicon. This is especially true if you use double sided leather tape, or heavy duty Seam Stick to hold seams together for sewing. Liquid silicon is sold through industrial sewing machine dealers, usually in quart bottles. Get a small funnel to aim it into your waxpot. Originally, wax pots were used with liquid beeswax, or dry wax cakes that were heated into liquid as you sew. This system only works on barbed needle and awl machines because the wax gums up the eye of the needle on a modern system.
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I have an Adler 30-7 in my shop. On Saturday I used it to sew a patch onto the front of a customer's ball cap. I also use it to sew patches over pockets. It is busy working on sewing 43 patches onto a biker's vest. It is really just a repairs machine, for fixing things that are in hard to reach locations. A full bobbin of #138 thread might sew 5 belts or rifle slings. I don't use heavy thread in mine, just #69 or #92 bonded thread. Most of my needles are #18 through #22. I normally have a #19 or #20 needle in it. I do have a few #24 needles in case I need to use it for a short run of #207 thread, but haven't done that yet. I have a Cowboy CB4500 for that thread.
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Not wanting to add doom and gloom to this topic, but I thought I should mention that if the little paddle shaped thread control spring inside the head is bent out of alignment it will drag as you revolve the head. If you listen carefully while revolving the butterfly handles, you might hear the sound of metal scraping against metal in certain points of rotation. The spring lives just above the needle mounting block. Replacing this spring is a work of art in itself. I don't have time to go into it now.
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Thread/Needle size for a Yamata FY5618?
Wizcrafts replied to Vhatton's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
You'll need at least 1/8 inch of leather to hide the knots with #138 thread. It has 22 pounds breaking strength, so you may need to sew double rows on sheathes or pancakes. It is fine for journals and combining the back to the interior of a wallet. It is too thick for the interiors though. For those you'll want to stock up on #69 and/or #92 bonded thread. Get you some #18, #20 and #23 leather point needles for these threads sewn into leather and the same sizes in round points for cloth, canvas and Naugahyde, if you intend to sew those materials.