Yeah,
But believe it or not, I found less problems with machines with the toys vs. without the toys. With the toys, the machine cuts the thread and holds it to start the next stitch. To many beginners have problems holding the thread when you start sewing. The machine helps eliminate some of the other problems. Just my 2 cents. Figure out which machine you want first. Then check dealers around for best price.
if you are buying a new machine, buy the 867 Adler Eco or look at the 2810 from Juki. That is Juki's copy of the 867. I hear good things about it and it is cheaper than the Adler 867. Adler's are the best, no questions asked. Contact MJ Foley in Detroit and see what their prices on both machines are. I always contact multiple dealers for prices. Like buying records, who can give you the best price and service.
glenn