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Help me understand sizing in DBx1, 16x231, 16x95, 1738A needles
kgg replied to williaty's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
From the information I have seen the needle shank diameter size goes up from 1.63 mm for size #18 needle used for V69 thread changes to 2.00 mm for size #19 needles used for V92 thread and up to size #25 needle when using the DBx1 needle system. To get around shank diameter you need to change to the Groz-Beckert System 1738 A system. What machine are you planning on buying the needles for and for what size thread? kgg -
Think of a pair of jeans. The outside seam is Lap Seam (sewn first) and the other seam (inside seam) is just a simple seam sewn with the material inside out. kgg
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Another thought would be to construct the sleeve similar to a pant leg where you would do the lap seam first and then the inseam. The down side is that you would have a second seam rather then a cylinder with just the lap seam. The up side is you could use a regular flatbed or cylinder machine with a table top attachment. Just my thought, kgg
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I would think you would use an up the arm machine or a patcher. kgg
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A consideration to keep in mind is the maximum size needle the machine can handle which in turn will determine the maximum size thread you can use in the machine. The 335 class (Seiko CW's) max out with a #22 (140 metric) needle which will limit you to V92 (Tkt 30) thread. kgg
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What machine are you using? Flat felled seam are sometimes referred to as lap seams. A couple of video's for you to look at: 1. No attachment and basic principals : www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vJzVW2lLk 2. With a Lap Seam Folder on Hightex / Cowboy double needle: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmxvdtlWdZQ Hope this helps, kgg
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To try to cover off most your requirements a cylinder arm is probably your best bet with a table top attachment which you can also purchase aftermarket or do DIY version to suite your needs. Depending on how much you can afford I would suggest either a new or good used Juki LS-1341 or a good used older Juki LS-341. After that most of the clones are copied after the older Juki LS-341 so you can have a wide selection and price range to choose from depending on where you are located. Where are you located maybe someone can direct you to a dealer in your area? Buy Once, Cry Once kgg
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Very nicely done. kgg
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I am in eastern Ontario and to ship a 1 lb spool of T-135 (V138) Anefil Nylon directly from A&E located in Toronto cost me $8.50 and if order before noon I get it the next day before noon. kgg
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Another thread chart would be ( https://www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html ). kgg
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Lookling for help with a Chandler C-287 / Juki DNU-241
kgg replied to HDSewing's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
The height adjustments for the pressor foot is on the back side of the machine. Check pages 7, 8, 9 and 10 of the 241engineers manual. If the 241 is the same as the 1541 refer to section 7 of the Engineers Manual. Hopes this helps. kgg DNU-214H-5-2B Engineer.pdf JUKI_DNU-1541-S-7EM01_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf -
Yes you can get them to sew but that can be a frustrating process for some people. I do have one and they are a true tinkers delight providing hours of entertainment. The quality of fit and finish to say the least is generally poor at best. They do have their place but the quality is nowhere comparable to that of a old Singer 29K or a new clone patcher. There is a fair number of mods that will be needed to make constant decent stitches such as resetting the height of the needle to accept 135 x 16 needles, polishing / replacing the pressor foot to reduce marks, polishing parts to get it to run sort of smoothly and retiming are just a few. If this is all someone can afford and has the time to invest it maybe a starting point until they could afford something better. If someone could stretch their budget to $565 US maybe what Walmart is selling which appears to be a clone of Singer 29k72 ( https://www.walmart.com/ip/TFCFL-Hand-Crank-Patch-Leather-Sewing-Machine-Cobbler-Shoe-Sewing-Repair-Machine/975331286?athbdg=L1700 ) or in Canada for $769 CA ( https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/INTBUYING-Leather-Sewing-Machine-Sewing-Mending-Machine-Shoe-Repair-Industrial-without-Table-Motor/PRD442E8MWFN5KN ). I think better options out there in the new machine market for about the $500 US price range for a first new machine. kgg
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Happy Leathercrafting Christmas 2021
kgg replied to Handstitched's topic in Leatherwork Conversation
Wishing the same to everyone. Enjoy, Relax and Stay Safe. kgg -
I think you have two options: 1. Bring the cutouts to a leather shop that has a leather splitter and have them reduce the thickness for you at a fee. 2. Buy a leather splitter, new or used, something similar to a Cowboy 8020 (new for approximately $2900 US plus plus) or Cobra Class 14 Leather Splitter (new for approximately $3000 US plus plus). This maybe an option if you plan doing a lot but will involve a learning curve. kgg
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According to the A&E charts the info seems to be correct. kgg 5-Thread-Size-Comparison-Chart-2-4-10.pdf
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Just a note to the above chart from RockyAussie . Metric thread sizes are written as just the number like "20" while Far East thread size would be written as "M20". Both the Metric and Far East sizing methods for threads are the same. kgg
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The #21 needle is to small for your V138 (T135) thread and will not provide a large enough hole to haul the bobbin thread up properly. The #21 is good for V92 (T90) thread. You should look at the the the needle / thread chart on Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine site https://www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html kgg
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Seems like you tried to order excellent thread (A&E), you can't go wrong there. But I wonder why you didn't order directly from A&E as they have two distributors in Australia Distributor A: Charles Parsons Com P/L A&E Distributor 75 Heyington Avenue Thomastown Melbourne VIC 3074 Australia Phone: +61-3-9380-3600 Toll Free: +61-1800-301894 Contact: David Millard Email: apparel@charlesparsons.com.au Website: www.charlesparsons.com Distributor B: Paskal Australia Pyt Ltd A&E Distributor 9A Lakewood Blvd Braeside Victoria Australia 3195 Australia Phone: +61 3 9588 8800 Fax: +61 3 9583 1699 Contact: DavidClota Email: paskal@paskal.com.au Website: www.paskal.com.au I hope this helps, kgg
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To help with your thread problems a couple of pictures detailing how you have the top thread routed from the thread spool to the needle along with the size of needle could probably help solve your problem. kgg
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The possible problem I see with the machine is getting parts should something break / wear out. Kingsley was sold in 1995 and parts / support can be hard to find. kgg
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The number 135 x 17 is the system of needle you didn't mention the needle size. For leather you should be using a 135 x 16 with a #22 needle for thin leather and #23 needle or even #24 needle for thicker leather. The 135 x 17 needle system you are using is mostly for fabric. The spec I seen on your machine says the max needle size to be a #23. To me this would indicate it being rated for a #23 needle the machine is probably rated for V92 thread top and in the bobbin in thick and V138 top and in the bobbin in thinner or fabric. This would be similar to the rating of a Juki DU-1181n (flatbed) which is factory rated for V92 thread top and in the bobbin but can accommodate a #23 needle for V138 thread. In some materials depending mostly on thickness I can use V138 thread top and in the bobbin and others I have to go down to V92 thread top and in the bobbin. From the photo showing how the thread is unwrapping / seperating I think the hole the needle is making isn't large enough and rolling the thread slightly so it is unraveling. Looks to me like a polyester type thread. As a test go down to V92 bonded nylon or polyester with a leather needle (135x16 #22 or #23) as see what happens. kgg
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A couple of questions. How thick is the material being sewn, what size thread (top and bobbin) and with what size needle? A couple photo's of the top thread path maybe helpful along with the item being sewn. kgg
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I agree it can be confusing to say the least. As every brand name manufacturer brand or clone seems to number and classify their machine differently. I sort of break it down by Type first then Class then Series. Type is the easiest, basically what the machine looks like: Flat-bed, Cylinder-bed, Post-bed, Patcher, etc Class, to me is, what the machine was designed to handle: Domestic home sewing machines, Domestic Heavy Duty like portable walking foot, Industrial Fabric, Industrial Leather Upholstery, Industrial Leather Saddlery Series, to me, is where the machine capabilities are. I find it generally easier to determine a machines abilities when comparing brand name machines as there is usually more detailed technical information then what is offered by some of the clones. The "Class" label I think is being used, me included, commonly and interchangeably with "Series". This is where things like rated thread size, feed mechanism (triple feed, walking foot, jump foot, drop feed, etc), tension mechanisms and sewing thickness come into play and determine what a machine was designed and rated to handle. Just my thoughts, kgg
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I'm not sure it's about each individual machine but more to do with the number of various manufacturers even through they all look pretty much the same expect for the coat of paint so who knows what other differences are lurking. Excellent advice. kgg
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Like I've always said they are a true tinkers delight that gives endless hours of entertainment. kgg