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Some of the newer Juki's are made in China and some in Vietnam. But it depends on the model, the last I heard the Juki 1541S were still being made in Japan as was the 441. Quality remains to be seen on the non Japanese manufactured models. I agree. That one gave me another chuckle. Clone is an identical copy, Forgery is just a look-a-like copy. kgg
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I whole heartily agree. When a China clone is put side by side with a Juki there is a very quick realization why there is a difference. That just cracked me up. Thanks for the chuckle. kgg
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The Juki 341 (couldn't find it on their website) is an older version of the newer Juki LS-1341. The cost of a new Juki LS-1341 is probably north of $3500 US. The Atlas version appears to be a tweeted clone of the Juki LS-341 at ~ $1900 US. The cost difference between the clone and a new Juki is substantial. In Ontario, Canada a used Juki LS-1341 complete (table/servo motor) from a dealer will run ~ $1600 CAD (~$1275 US) while a new similar new clone model will cost ~$2500 and up, depending on the dealer. Still it depends on the price, the dealer reputation, how close the dealer is to your location, how comfortable you are buying and possibly doing repairs on a used machine versus a new machine and condition of the Juki. When I bought the LS-1341 clone I actually went to the dealer and was planning on buying a new Juki but the cost difference was substantial. I said I'd would give the clone a try. I have had it for over a year with no problems, it does do the job but it is no Juki. The best advice I can give is go and test run both machines with your stuff and thread. If there are other dealers in your area with clones and used machines check them out as well. kgg
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Some additional questions I think need to be answered before anyone would go out on a limb and give a definite answer. Which Juki model versus which Atlas Levy model? Are they just walking foot machines or are they compound feed machines. How thick of material (leather or fabric) do you need / want to sew and what thread would you be planning on using? Cost of used Juki and any pictures. On the surface I would first choose a good used Juki over a similar new clone. That said I did purchase a new clone LS-1341as a stop gap until I can find a good used Juki 441. When I purchased my other Juki's (1181N and 1541S) I bought them new never had any problems right out of the box. Personally I like the quality of the Juki machines and I think parts / accessories will be always available. kgg
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Have you tried contacting Techsew in Montreal, toll free number is (866) 415-8223. kgg
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Thank you. Thank you, I didn't realize until I had the first one cut and hammered down that I realized it was a bit long so I thought I might be able to just cut it off and re-install. So I did a test removal of a rivet installed the same way on a double layer of glued 5 oz and it was a royal pain to get the rivet shaft ground down so it could be removed from the burr. I was surprised as how tight the shaft is in the burr. I figured if I tried to remove the first rivet I stood a better then average chance of ruining the leather. So I decided to continue on the same with the others. The next one will hopefully be a bit cleaner looking. I looked at some double caps which would look really nice as they do have a nicer lower, smoother profile. I decided against using them as I didn't think they would stand up as well since the metal connecting shafts seem very thin. All Great comments. kgg
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Tight thread tension on top loose on the bottom
kgg replied to jadub's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
In Canada and I'm going to assume the US we can order directly from A&E. kgg -
The "804 RNR" refers to serviceman 804 of the Royal Newfoundland Regiment, one of the 68 men too survive, out of 800, going over the top on July 1, 1916 at Battle of the Somme. I am planning on making a "804 RNR" stamp for future use. What I did was a drill a hole in the long flat side of the money clip that is on the outside of the flap to accommodate a copper rivet. I then cut to shape a small piece of leather to wrap around the D-ring, wet molded it around the D-ring, dyed, glued and punched a 3/32" hole in the piece. The money clip was then slipped over the top of the flap and a 3/32" hole punched in the wallet flap that lined up with the hole in the money clip. I put a small wipe of Vaseline around the 3/32" hole on the inside of the flap, then I used a heat gun to melt the Vaseline into the area around the hole so when it was set the edge of the head would be counter sunk just a touch. I then stuffed the copper rivet through from the underside of the leather through the money clip and the D-ring leather. Then I cutoff the access rivet shaft, installed the copper washer, and hammered round the remaining shaft of the rivet with the rivet setter. What I did was sand the edges and to give a little bevel using fine sandpaper as I didn't have a proper small edger to give a nice edge. Edger and burnisher on the way. Once the wallet was constructed I used good old fashion Vaseline to put some flexibility into the leather by smearing inside, outside and all the edges of the wallet and then heating it with a heat gun. It was amazing to watch the leather suck up the Vaseline like a sponge. It didn't leave the wallet feeling greasy or oily, just flexible enough. Thank you for the questions and compliment. kgg
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I am hard on my wallets and my store bought finally had seen better days. I stuff everything including the kitchen sink in there. So I figured I'd step out of my comfort zone and give a try at making one. I called it my 804 RNR. To add too the challenge: i) It had to be able to hold six credit card size cards. ii) Hold real money. iii) As thin as possible to fit comfortably in my front pants pocket without bulging. iv) Be able to attach my keys to it. I never go anywhere without my keys and wallet. They are sort of a package deal. iv) Look distressed like the bank account. v) Have No stitching. What I came up with seems to fit those requirements and is over 3/4" thinner in the pocket. The wallet consists of one piece of 4-5 oz veg tan, 1 money flat money clip, 5 good old fashion copper rivets, a little leather glue, dab of dye and some Vaseline. Photo 1: Thickness of old store bought wallet (34.31mm). Photo 2: New No Sew prototype wallet (12.92mm) Photo 3: D-ring (1 1/2") for clipping keys onto wallet. D-ring and money clip attached to wallet flap by a copper rivet. Photo 4: Wallet interior with money and cards. Any and all comments are always welcome. Thanks for looking. kgg
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Tight thread tension on top loose on the bottom
kgg replied to jadub's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
I like American & Efird ( http://www.amefird.com/ ) made in both Canada and the US. Lots of choices for all types of sewing. They seem to have done the engineering on their thread. The drawback for some users is that the last I heard before the China Cough shutdowns was that they had stopped producing the 8 ounce spools. kgg -
If they had installed the connection right in the first place you may never have had a problem. That connection was just a blockage waiting to happen. It was obviously installed without an inspection. kgg
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I only suggestion I can offer is too try and layout your shop so the work flow of your projects follows your process with the necessary tools close at hand. I think right handed dominate people like the flow to be clockwise while left handed dominate like it to flow counter clockwise. Cutting table on left wall, tooling bench back wall, sewing machine / stitching area on right wall vs cutting table on right, wall tooling bench back wall, sewing machine / stitching area on left wall. kgg
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Tight thread tension on top loose on the bottom
kgg replied to jadub's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
Yes you are reading the chart correctly but I think most of the charts are meant for sewing in fabric rather then leather or sticky material. You may find the chart by Toledo Sewing Machines (www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html ) a better choice. kgg -
Tight thread tension on top loose on the bottom
kgg replied to jadub's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
My understanding is the 130/21 needle is used for the top end of V92 thread while a #22 needle is the bottom end of V138 thread. I would suggest you try V92 thread with the #21 and see what happens or move up to a #22 needle. Also I am assuming you using a older PFAFF 1245 and using the correct needle for your sub class which would be either 134 -35 needle system or a 190 needle system in a leather point not a fabric point needle. As a note the older PFAFF can only accept a 140 / #22 needle with a max thread of 15/3 which is about T120 depending on thread type (cotton vs bonded polyester vs bonded nylon) and thread manufacturer this I think may cause problems with V138 particularly when used in both the bobbin and as a top thread. You maybe able to use V138 as a top thread but be limited to V92 in the bobbin depending on the material being sewn. Having the top thread lay flat on top of you material indicates the upper tension is too tight or the lower tension is too loose. You did say the bobbin is loose and wobbly. Have you done adjusted the bobbin tension by doing the drop test. Note the tension screw only needs to be turned in ever so slight increments like an 1/8 of a turn. kgg -
I have attached a pdf and rather then me retyping the difference are listed under "Description". Essentially the higher the number the capable the machine. kgg
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To me it looks like a Singer 111W 152 or 153 or 154 or 155. kgg
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Tight thread tension on top loose on the bottom
kgg replied to jadub's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
This could be also be related to the size of needle, size of thread, thickness of leather. What size needle, thread and thickness of leather are you using? kgg -
Had a few minutes tonight so I threw together this version of my awl. I extended the index finger support and shorten the overall length by about 11/ 16" (17.5 mm). The second version is definitely more pen like. Photo: 1) Side by side view of both awl's. 2) Left hand has the first version awl and the right hand has the shorten version awl. No excuse now, I have one for each hand. kgg
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Thank you. The trick was to making the back section flexible enough to bend slightly too allow the awl into the sheath. Thank you, I never thought of that use. I might have a chance later to night to make one with a shorter needle, more pen like.
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I have always had a problems with round handled tools in general wondering away and the awl was no different. So I built my own scratch awl and dolled it up with some 3d printed features to act more like a pen with a comfort indent for my index finger and end cover for the wooden handle. That seemed to take care of the awl but not the wondering when laid down. So I 3d printed a flat bottom sheath with the inside shaped to fit the contours of the awl and a handle stop so it does fall out. Also it protects the needle and me from getting poked. The next problem was to make the whole package do more. As I do a fair bit of inside out sewing that then requires it be turn right side out, much like you would do for a pillow case, getting the corner bunching out has been a problem. So the nose had to be nice and round but blunt so it wouldn't punch through. Also when I use double side tape to hold items together I have used various item to press the pieces together so I needed a little contour at the bottom side of the nose to held flatten pieces together. I used cheap and I mean cheap PLA for this prototype and didn't dial in the printer to handle this PLA which is less forgiving on the heat and horizontal expansion compensation settings. This is what I came up with. Any comments or improvement suggestions are always appreciated. PHOTO: 1) awl with index finger comfort indent 2) sheath round nose with bottom contour for flattening 3) awl and sheath with hangup string 4) how the awl fits my hand much like a pen would 5) awl in sheath with a index finger comfort indent 6) how awl and sheath fits my hand much like a pen would for flattening kgg
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How far away are they, it maybe worth a trip and do you have a dealer repair shop within the same distance range that may have a similar machine? kgg
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Does it have a servo motor if not add at least $150 to the price you are paying. Without photo's that shows the overall condition and detailed ones of the thread path and bed, getting an answer is going to be difficult. If the machine is in mint condition no missing parts, no thread worn gouges in the thread path tensioner's, no path worn off the bed, servo motor and most importantly sews properly then I would. kgg
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I do own a Juki 1541S and they are a good machine. They are rated for V138 top and in the bobbin but probably could take V207 at least as a top thread. However my machine hates thin stuff. I think it would easily handle the 12 oz which is about 1/4" thick but it will depend on how tough the leather is. Any pictures?? The price is a hard one to determine, depends on condition, clutch or servo motor and prices in your area. A new one would be about $1800 US while a clone contender would be a new Consew 206RB-5. kgg