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welcome back!!! I enjoy seeing your work!

Here's the deal. man has been using leather since the stone age. They have been conditioning leather for the same amount of time using all "natural " products. to think that it hasn't been done or tried is just silly for lack of a better term that wont offend folks. But here is something to think about, if you use your new beeswax and olive oil conditioner that hasn't ever been tried before in the history of man. on leather you intend to use out doors you better stock up on bug spray!!!!! Bugs smell stuff, they like food, and you will smell like food to them ! Bees especially are attracted to beeswax for some odd reason, who knew right? Good luck to all in your endeavors to find out what cave men already knew and what your grandaddy forgot to tell you.

i dont have pics of my finished saw, i put a nice oak table on it after i got the bugs worked out.

A great use of scraps lol.

i heard one similar about two old biker babes lol. did you come on your bike? yea at least twice.

i've used a lot of P.O, cedar arrows as well. I forget traditional archery means something different over here lol. My arrows don't have a good life, a great deal of my practice is in the field, stump shooting or hunting so i go through at least a dozen a year. A dozen arrows built like you use, custom built would be about $150 bucks. I did order a dozen po shafts, plus fletching and knocks cheapest i could find is $80 to build my own.

great idea man two awls in one pair.

that is unique and very cool

I am so sorry to hear that news my friend stay home and take care of her, even on a good day chemo isn't fun. We will be here any time. I cant help much from here but i can give you my support, prayers and will listen if you feel the need.

i figured you folks may have wood working tools Oh well, out of the 12, 10 were spined well within the tolerances of store bought and the two i fletched up fly perfectly. Douglas fir is one of many proper arrow woods over here what do you folks use? Oh man i just realized while writing i can make footed arrows now too cant wait to try that. My next build, if life stays on track, is going to be a take down recurve always wanted one never could afford one, still cant lol.

hey set your messenger to recieve messages lol i tried to send this to you. PS not a joke Hey Fred i just had to have you check this out. i gather you and your kids are archers from previous posts so i had to show this jig to you. It is for making arrow shafts.. I don't how far you folks go into making your own arrows but i have for years but i always had to buy my shafts which are now really expensive over here. I found this jig on the net while lurking around. I made one and it works like a charm once you get it adjusted. I made a dozen shafts in 30 minutes from a douglas fir 2"x4' costing 4 bucks lol. I'm friggin ecstatic lol. I figured it was just as easy showing you the original thread instead of taking pics of my messy garage. Anyway here it is, i'm going outside to shoot lol. http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,44952.0.html

I like to install straps going with the flow of motion so they don't catch on stuff.

quick pull a rug over it, she might not notice for at least ten seconds. Not!!!!! Your in Big sh#t friend.

that is nice looking!!

sweet looking for sure.

what an awesome day you must of had, Lotta food. lotta guns an a lotta friends is always a good time.

oh man that sounds like you had a blast. good eats and plenty of gunpowder.

what part of the hide did you cut them from?

thanks the big rose turned out to be a corsage for the wife today!!

Ford was a genius! What Sam Colt added to the mix was parts that were machined to exacting standards that could be interchanged between guns, before him guns were primarily made one at at a time by one gunmaker so a hammer, for example, may or may not fit the next gun another gunmaker built. Sam created parts that needed very little human fitting so many gunmakers could produce the same weapon that could in turn be repaired in the field by less trained people with spare parts. Anyway i'm with you. Today is a special day for all the mothers in our lives so lets give them some time!! Have a great day my friend!

Very cool story Fred, Stainless has an interesting begining. http://www.estainlesssteel.com/historyofstainlesssteel.shtml Assembly lines look much different now than in Sam colts time. lol less people more machines, some products built now never get touched by human hands or even seen by human eyes until they are unwrapped by the consumer. Quality control left when the people did. make em, sell em, give them a refund or their money back if it is substandard.

lol I asked that once too.

All is well here my friend, give your mom a big hug today!! Its a pleasure that many don't get.

beautiful!!!

does science tell you your right? First off what is "old steel" Stainless steel for example was invented in the 30's. D2 first used in the 60's. The cost of a modern knife compared to an old knife has to be calculated to adjust for inflation of the dollar before worrying about buying a "brand" doesn't it? Acording to the us inflation calculator( https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1975?amount=1 ) the average is 3.62% per year since 1946. lets look at a knife from 1975 avg inflation of 3.67% or 1$ = $5.64 so a 20 dollar knife in 75 would cost in todays world $112.80. So how much did round knives cost in 1975? Ultimately the important part about knives is the hardness and tempering process not the steel or when it was made. There were old knives that sucked and there are new knives that suck due to that fact, and all made from the same steel formulas. On the flip side are old and new tools that are good also. Scientifically there is no difference in the steels, nor the hardening nor the tempering. Time or age has nothing to do with that. But there is a difference in how it was done and by whom it was done. Stricter manufacturing tolerances for example and more human interface in older tool work led to better overall tool quality than modern standards in most cases. Today you can buy a knife from several different companies all with the made in china stamp right on the side, if they are bad they will gladly send you another, why because times are different and a product line doesn't reflect the company in the same way. Folks have learned to settle for a replacement so construction standards have changed, make bazillions of product then replace the bad ones as they are found by the consumer is the new process. Selling higher quality tools that pass stricter standards so they aren't sent back is the old process. Science and technology in itself has changed drastically in the last few decades from producing a higher quality product for the consumer to producing a higher bottom line for the companies that fund the research, which means quality is simply not always the target point. Old tools are an excellent find and well worth it if they aren't worn out, that's the key to buying old tools especially knives.