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They are shoes right? clear shoe polish over your favorite water proofing.

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interesting question indeed! i managed a maintenance shop for years and many many times we worked at producing multiple products for the prison like beds, tables and such. first off you need to make your list of supplies from your design including all your needles, thread, glue, etc. Then you need to make one and find out how much of each product you will actually need, people sometimes ruin eyelets so you need a factor for that, plus how long each construction sequence takes, cutting , sewing etc, and to find the easiest/fastest construction sequence like sewing first or punching all holes first, this will be changed as you gain knowledge but it gives you a starting point. I used construction sequence times to figure out time accurately when doing multiples, its easier and faster to sew ten items then go to the next step instead of making one complete bed at a time. then you need to lay out your workspace to coincide with your construction sequence so everything flows from one job to the next. Time management flow also is a concern, how long each job takes how many people each job takes, if one guy can sew ten beds in day but the next job eyelets ,for example, only takes half a day, then the eyelet setter needs to be working on another step of the operation for the other half day. supplies should also be considered as very important , how long to get them is the biggie, at what point to order more so you don't run out of one thing that stops production, especially the small stuff like thread or glues that you don't really take notice to. Are you planning to make them and stock them or make them per order? Stocked = how many are you going to set on before getting a return vs per order= you get paid but the consumer has to wait for the construction process. There will be variables that change in the beginning and you really need to be open on this and willing to see change in process when it becomes evident. Learning curve, ordering and supply problems, and personnel problems. I used to lay out these processes then set back and see how the workers refined the workload and work flow ,they were the experts so i went with their ideas more than not.

Best thing to do is try it on some scrap then you will have first hand knowledge that you can reliably use and share.

good luck and god bless you.

really nice work!! my vote is always for antler lol.

great start i cant wait to see the finished piece. woo you spent some dough! They do need a special place to rest.

i have had them both too plus dozens of others sorry i disagree i pick my buckles according to their use. No one can truly tell what's under plating or how well something is made by looking at a picture or even feeling it. But hey that's your opinion so go with it I certainly don't care how you pick your buckles. Now if you read the op He wants know if the 2.00 dollar difference is justified. So what is he using them for? cute little purses or heavy duty dog collars? You gonna throw 2 more bucks on a product your only making ten on if its not needed??

your right but we don't know they weren't either and that's the quandary, paying twice as much for the same thing. The only way to tell is obvious get one of each and take a file to them and see what the base metal is, then maybe a good strength test of some kind.. We as a group obviously haven't tested either of them for the purpose that the op intends to use them other than maybe feeling them. lol

yup to many!

All good points my friend and worth adding to this thread. I 've seen many leather products made by folks that don't have the practical knowledge such as this. They follow a pattern without knowing if its a workable design that will stand up to its proposed use in an efficient manner. I've ridden and hunted horseback a few times but not enough to take advantage of any knowledge i might have gained from the experience so i could just have easily made a scabbard with the same inadequacies or even more. Thank you for the excellent advice.

i think its "good enough" too.

I just fleshed two elk forelegs, i am going to tan them to make a hair on holster for my late dads cap and ball revolver. I would post pictures but you probably dont want to see my freshly salted hides in the raw lol.

i just got this image of you driving that old tractor with 6" spiked goth boots and a santa suit LOL.

get it!!!!

BFK!!!! you don't really need a welt at all it is to protect the stitching from getting cut and your edge is to the fold. i would lose the welt on the fold side altogether or just glue it, it being squished in there shouldn't need sewing. Or if you do want to sew it then i would do the outside stitch all the way around then do the inside to the tip then decide if you want go all the way with it. Also by adding the welt there will be no natural retention so you will need a strap or something imo to be safe..

That is really cool! A lot of there for sure.

yup dont be afraid of hitting to hard its the impressions that form the shadows that make the shape stand out then you can lift the edges for even more of an effect. A heavier maul may be what you need.

the deer here have a strong taste in their fat so we don't use it, we replace it with beef or pork fat. Maybe that's the case there too. as you say it doesn't hurt to ask. Those are small critters indeed, an adult Elk weighs about 800 lbs average.

no need for bashing folks my friend keep your opines about the folks on here to yourself it makes for a much nicer forum.

very cool indeed!

your right beeswax has been used for thousands of years on leather and many other products. Mostly to seal and or waterproof the product its applied to. I've never read or heard of its primary use being to prevent NFO from going rancid, if it does that's great too!! . Beeswax rocks don't get me wrong i use it for about a half dozen different potions mostly very old concoctions for wood leather textiles and such.

all kinds of cool sciency stuff about leather.

the link works for me? it is to the site only not a document.

wow such an asociation exists https://www.researchgate.net/journal/Journal-American-Leather-Chemists-Association-0002-9726