@Pappys Leather I just remembered you are having swivel knife trouble , you can try this . Once the letter is traced on .... don't cut just use a bevel and backgrounder if you are wanting the sunken look. It works pretty well and looks good ( you may want to do better than this example ). I haven't tried but I don't see any reason it would not work for the raised letter look as well , just a thought and I know you'll get it figured out ! Merry Christmas