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  1. I want to make a western style cartridge belt with sewn on bullet loops and to stiffen the belt a little I thought a liner would be a good idea. My problem is a similar thickness of leather would make the belt too thick. Suede seems to pick up dirt and dust. I think what I need is just a lighter weight oak tanned leather. Any suggestions appreciated.
  2. Thoughts on Western Holsters

    Thanks, will check them out
  3. I have just finished a buscadero type holster. To date I've made two Mexican double loop holsters, two California types, and one Tom Three Person's style. I thought I'd throw out some thoughts with the idea of some suggestions as to how I might have done a better job. On the Slim Jim or California type holsters, I made my own fish scale stamp and stamped the whole thing and then added a suede liner. This got the thickness about right. On the Double loops I did not use a liner but the skirt seems to stiffen up the holster. On my last effort, it started out as a Mexican double loop. I glued together two heavy pieces of leather- rough side to rough side but this was actually too much of a good thing. It was so thick that I didn't think I'd ever get the pouch through the loops. I had not yet cut out the loops on the skirt so I ended up turning it into a buscadero style with a band which wrapped around the pouch and then through two up-down slots in the skirt- secured in back with 2 Chicago screws (I lapped the ends over each other. On previous holsters the area around the trigger guard always seemed too tight and so this time I put in a welt. This welt, I think, is a good idea, it adds more room for the trigger guard and more room at the muzzle. One mistake I made was that I should have skived this welt so that I had full thickness in the front- next to the gun but at the back, along the seam, there was no thickness, or very little. If you use two heavy pieces of leather and a welt you end up with an edge about 3/4" thick. I sanded, burnished this until it looked okay but I think if the welt and the edges of the sides were all skived, to reduce the edge- that would be an improvement. In wet forming the holster to the gun, I wrapped up the gun in plastic, foil and plastic- so no water induced rust, but I worked the leather too much. On a lot of modern holsters the leather conforms to the shape of the gun, the cylinder, etc. standing out but on a western holster this doesn't look like the originals, the leather should not be worked around the gun but left rather smooth. Another issue was the bend between the pouch and skirt. The leather wants to wrap around the gun however the wrap should be in the other direction to conform to the body. I have thought about a wood shim, bent somewhat to the body's shape- put though the belt area when forming this part of the holster. This holster I left open on the bottom but on others I sewed a plug, which I think is better. Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
  4. Cartridge Belt Help

    Thanks- that shows the detail I needed. To me, on the buckle strap, when you fold or double over the end after wrapping around the center bar of the buckle, the loop over the main part of the belt goes between that doubled over portion of the buckle strap. This probably strengthen matters because if you pulled on the buckle strap the loop will stop movement before stress is put on the stitches holding the buckle's strap to the main part of the belt. Once again- sorry if I'm getting the terminology mixed up. And- that is a super good looking belt.
  5. Cartridge Belt Help

    I'm planning to make a western cartridge belts. In the front the main belt will fold under itself. I see these with a big loop into which one end of the main belt is run. Unfortunately I can't tell where to attach this big loop? Should it fit between the doubled over end of the buckle strap or be directly attached to the main belt? Any help appreciated.
  6. Gunbelt loops

    I am making a western cartridge belt. I am not sure of the terminology but there is the main belt with the cartridge loops and this doubles over itslef in front with a loop. Then there is the buckle strap with buckle and tongue for the buckle- both sewn in front on the main belt. The buckle strap has a belt loop for the tongue which is identical to a normal dress belt. There is then a second loop for the main belt. This second loop- that is my issue and photos don't show the detail. Is this loop attached to only the main belt, under the buckle strap OR... is it connected to the buckle strap and goes over the main belt. In other words- where do you connect the larger loop? Thanks.
  7. Bleed-proof dye job

    Thanks for the help. What exact Fiebing's dye do you use? On the oil- straight neatsfoot? The top coat- what do you use? The buffing- I have not done that, maybe that is the source of my trouble. Thanks again.
  8. Bleed-proof dye job

    I've made quite a few leather holsters and sheaths. If it is for "show" I'll go ahead and dye the leather but so far the dye always leaks or bleeds if the leather gets wet. I've asked a lot of knowledgeable leather workers who always give the same answers but I don't think they comprehend what I'm talking about. There is having a leather item subjected to a light rain and then there is the "wear every day" knife sheath that gets totally soaked many times and dries while you wear it. So far all I have come up with is a 50/50 wax/neatsfoot oil- which is okay however if I could get a chocolate brown that stood up as well- that would be nice. All help appreciated.
  9. Holster Pouch Formation

    Thanks, I've used some alcohol dyes that really dried out the leather too much.
  10. I'm making a western style holster and I want to form fit the gun to the holster. In the past I have always soaked the leather with water, wrapped the revolver in plastic and put it in the holster. I have so far never had any water get to the gun and rust it however it is always a worry. Someone told me to wet the leather with rubbing alcohol instead of water. Any comments appreciated.
  11. Buscadero Holster help

    I saw one set up with snaps on the straps, the snaps on the back. I sort of like that because if the strap ends up being too long or short- just make another, not too much work.
  12. Buscadero Holster help

    Well, I've thought this out some. This leather, it was pretty thick to start so what I now have (2 sides glued together) is like the sole on a shoe. If I go with the Mexican double loop there will be 2 problems, one is getting the loop open enough to insert the pouch. Even if I can do that the loops over the pouch will be really thick and not look correct. So....I've decided on the sewn on loops- Buscadero style. The idea of cutting vertical slots and having the loop on back on the skirt was because I thought the loop between pouch and skirt would hold the pouch away from the skirt but in thinking this out, if the loop is sewn far enough- side to side (to the skirt) the skirt then folds a little around the pouch so it looks tight together. I'll still have a really thick pouch to pull through the loops but I'm thinking it will work. The reason I was thinking of the vertical cuts in the skirt and bringing the loops (straps) through the skirt and attaching on back was I could sew the loops easy after they were around the pouch and not worry about pushing the pouch through sewn on loops. This is going to be a "using" holster. On the finish I was thinking of a 50/50 mix of neatsfoot oil and carnauba wax. I've used that on knife sheaths and it darkens the leather a little- to a light russet color. If I could burnish the edge black, that would look great but I've tried dying a burnished edge and found it hard to do and to keep the line of dye straight. Once again, any suggestions very much appreciated.
  13. On the dye, any tips on keeping such a straight line on the edge?
  14. Buscadero Holster help

    Thanks for clarifying the terminology. You can probably tell I'm a novice. I don't know how to post photos but right now I'm just stitching the entire border and then I'll sew the pouch. Then cut the loops or slots and tuck the pouch into the loops or use straps. I was thinking about making a wood form and inserting it in the loops to stretch them out and then wet everything and try to pull the pouch through the loops.